"Many admit to their unfair advantages" Do they? I have never met one. Not online or in person. Btw I don't agree that "the titles they've won have been bought", that is a bit of stretch. They have been a massive factor but not the sole reason.
While I'm not arguing against the fact that both Meath and Kildare have not been great in the last 5 years or so, I think people don't realise the psychological effect having this Dublin team in their province does to teams. A large number of teams in other provinces have semi realistic hopes of provincial silverware every year, but in Leinster for the last 6-7 years, each team's ambitions is to basically get as far as you can until you lose to Dublin.
This would have an affect on any province that had a team like this. For example, in the last 6-7 years outside Leinster, Dublin have beaten Cavan by 15 points, Cork by 13, Roscommon by 18 & 14, Mayo by 10, Kerry by 6, Galway by 9, Monaghan by 10 & 17, Tyrone by 6 & 12. Pretty much all these teams would be going into their seasons every year with at least an outside shot at a provincial title to motivate them. If they were guaranteed to face those kinds of defeats in their province year in year out, I can assure you, many players would be left wondering what was the point in putting in all the effort for zero chance of success, even provincially. We've had a number of promising young players go off travelling over the last number of years, and I can't blame them to be honest.
Meath lost to Longford in Leinster in 2018 (where a win would have meant they faced Dublin) but only lost out to Tyrone (controversially) in extra time in the qualifiers. Tyrone reached the All Ireland final that year.
It is healthy competition there's no reason why Westmeath Laois Longford going well shouldn't fancy a Kildare or Meath scalp in a fair amateur competition and your general point is rubbish if it's all down to Meath and Kildare being so poor how does that explain Dublin trouncing Tyrone Monaghan Galway Roscommon and Mayo in recent years all established division 1 teams. All provincial champions in recent years as well bar Monaghan and they've all been flattened humiliated and embarrassed by the multi million euro professional Dubs they're just lucky they don't face that prospect every year.
Kerry, Tyrone, Mayo and Dublin for what, the fourth or fifth time in the last decade? The problems with lack of competition go far beyond Dublin. Counties have to be given the opportunity to win an All-Ireland. That would mean splitting Kerry as well as Dublin and merging many others.
Top management and innovation go a long way. Banty at Monaghan has been fantastic for instance really out preforming what he has. Kildare other end of the spectrum basically had a poor tactically inept manager wasting their u21 talent. McGeeney was the start of it. And after Boylan left it is no coincidencece Meath folded. Both teams have done feck all in the back door or super 8’s or div 1 they fell backwards in standard v Mediocre/poor man Leinster teams. Mismanagement is at the core of the issue. Then those counties look at how well dublin is run. It is no wonder they feel sick and need a bogeyman or scapegoat. Most that do are GAA barstoolers anyway looking for something to moan about.
It is not healthy competition that is a delusional spin on it. Basically Kildare and Meath got so poor they became an afterthought it showed against weak teams in Leinster and other comps league and super 8s and back door. With the resources and proximity to Dublin and population. Meath and Kildare should at least be within the top 5/6 in the country but they became a shambles. Sh!te management and shite tactics. If people want to send in Dub GAA know how fair enough. But those two counties Kildare /Meath and fans should openly admit that their county boards took their eye off the ball. All that has nothing to with dublin.
Right, so when the dubs were mediocre they needed the GAA to swoop in with the plan, the structures and a bucket load of money to save them. When Meath and Kildare are mediocre they need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and stop whinging.
Anthony Daly on rte radio 1 a few minutes ago admitting Galway were undercooked when they met Dublin in the Leinster final in 2013, very honest of him. that's as "dominant" as it has got for the Dublin senior hurlers post funding.
Hurlers started at a very very low ebb, beaten by 12 points by Laois in 2005. Now very competitive against Galway and Kilkenny, two wins over the former in Championship in the last two years and close encounters against KK bar covid impacted Leinster final this year.
Two All Ireland club titles after never winning one before. 5 Leinster u-20 titles since 2007 having won two in the previous forty years.
Anyone trying to deny Dublin hurling is in a far healthier state than it was in the early 2000s is simply ignoring the facts it's not even debatable. Genuinely ridiculous argument.
the limerick senior hurlers started at a very low ebb, beaten by 24 points by tipp in 2009, they've kicked on a bit since then. ;)
1 Leinster senior hurling title is a flash in the pan.
Dublin have been bringing 10,000 and under to neutral Leinster championship games. What's the capacity of O Moore Park? What's the capacity of Nowlan Park? Thank you and goodnight.
It was interesting to hear Bernard Dunne talk about the high performance unit and the positive effect it has had on Irish boxing. Set up in 2005 he said. We've had pretty good success since then. It's almost as if increased funding, professional structures and coaching has an influence on results. Who would have thought?
And Bernard Dunne would know. He was also part of the Dublin footballers highly expensive backroom team for a few years, interestingly.
Of all the flimsy rationales, it's probably up there with the worst. Alongside the Dublin just have better volunteers nonsense. :D
get him in to work with the Dublin senior hurlers as soon as he returns from Tokyo, they might win an all Ireland before the end of the decade but I doubt it because if funding was the answer it would be Dublin regularly getting to all Ireland finals now and winning them, not limerick.
Dublin beat limerick in 2015.
Your point has been obliterated multiple times over. We're all agreed that results have been embarrassing for Dublin hurlers given the resources. Time you got over it.
Funding is the answer with Limerick. JP McManus has pumped millions into Limerick GAA. We're now seeing the results of a strong hurling tradition plus funding. Very similar to the Dublin footballers. Nothing wrong with it, it just shows money works.
Because that’s all they could realistically bring given the capacity there, thank you and good afternoon.
So you equate Dunne talking about another sport as somehow pertaining to Dublin GAA, hahaha... nothing if not entertaining, the sound of grasping at straws is hilarious.
Wrong! It's nothing to do with money in Limericks case because they lost to Kilkenny in 2019.
Well that's quite the contradiction to what you usually post.
O Moore Park capacity 22,000. Nowlan Park capacity 27,000. Game, set and match.
So you disagree with Bernard?Funding, a professional set up and professional coaching doesn't improve results?
Limerick just got their house in order, money has nothing to do with it.
And home fans want the majority of those tickets, you stick to tennis, good lad :)
funding ? It’s not funding my friend, it’s what you do with it... and how you administer said sport in your county :)
Dublin didn't play Laois or Kilkenny away. These were all neutral games and none were sell outs. This is not going well for you. :D
Ah it definitely does. Would ya stop.
You've accused people of talking out of both sides of their mouth many times in this thread and now here you are doing the exact same.
Dubs lost in 2012 and 2014 after all Irelands in 2011 and 2013 before their current run. Limerick are on a similar trajectory with JPs funding a central part.
Luckily the GAA drew up a plan and provided the funding for Dublin GAA then!
Luckily the GAA fund every county... ;)
Limerick were just underperforming and are now operating at their potential. The JP money is just for primary school children to promote hurling.
