I see the actual house is a listed building, which I believe protects it in various ways. I'm no expert though on the topic.
Would that make a difference to the developer throwing up apartments there?
I'm not 100% sure but I'm fairly sure I've seen that place for sale with a good while or it was something very similar.
Yes because the old schoolhouse is a listed building it cant be knocked or changed in any way from the outside. The inside of it is a mess and needs a full revamp.
The site itself goes a bit of a distance back from the school house so they could still build a small block of apartments there. But as everything around Lucan village is pretty much two storey there will definitely be objections if a developer tries to get permission for a 5 or 6 storey apartment block. So its kind of risky from that point of view in that the developers profit depends on how many units they can get permission for and if they're willing to spend time and money in a protracted planning dispute which could take over a year to play out.
I've seen a developer refused planning permission for a site that contained a listed building. A few months later the listed building mysteriously and totally accidentally burned down which paved the way for the developer to resubmit his application for planning which was subsequently granted.
I thought that alright re being able to do very little to the outside of it. It will be interesting to see if it sells, must check back on it via the thread, every so often, and see.
I didn't realise it was a listed building. It's also right at the edge of the road, has a pedestrian crossing in front of it and 2 takeaways beside it so I think they'll find it hard to shift at that price.
I think they probably could get the 500k asking price but it all depends on what it is likely to get planning permission for on the rest of the site. Like if they could renovate the schoolhouse (small as it is) it is still a unique and historic building so someone would pay 250k-300k for it in move in condition.It could also serve as a coffee shop or other small retail business.
After that it depends what the council would allow in terms of development. The biggest challenge is the site is right there at the traffic lights and vehicular access is difficult. Thats a busy junction in an already busy village. The site does share a boundary with a car park so if the owners of that were willing to sell a right of way then that would make getting planning permission a fair bit easier.
This is pronbably totally naive of me to say this.... but I thought they put a stop to that type of incident. If the place burned down, the builder has to rebuild it back to the way it was?
Didn't happen in the case I was talking about.
Was this recently? It used to happen a bit in the 80s and 90s but even in the Celtic Tiger days councils were making developers rebuild whatever had been knocked down. Do you have a link for it, it must have been in the local media if someone set fire to it
Celtic tiger era. I can't find a link, sorry.
Handy little 1 bed prefab homes for anyone with a spare site around Dublin? Actually looks more well made than some of the sh1te for rent in Dublin currently.
But all the usual caveats apply. Is it up to building regs, would you get pp for it? Would you get a mortgage for it? What is it constructed from? Is it insurable? It looks very cute sitting among the trees there, maybe it would make a reasonable holiday home, but there is a lot of information missing from the brief description.
I doubt it would comply with building regs etc., but neither would the sheds poorly converted and grandly advertised as studios.
True, but if you decide to chance converting a shed and offering it as accommodation then its clear you are taking a chance, whereas this is one of those yokes that people tend to think, well its on sale it must be ok. Which is stupid but it happens. This is someone else selling you a pup against you breeding one of your own.
Developers know ways around listed/protected buildings. There's no real consequences to damaging or knocking them, and it saves them money in the long run, when they don't follow the correct process.
Ooh whatever about the regs wouldn't it be lovely to have something like that on a nice plot of land in a nice place as a bolthole for when you need a bit of time for yourself.
I think they are being sold as holiday homes to be fair. I wouldn't be surprised if some "enterprising" soul decided to knock a few up and rent them to hard ups though. Looking into them you need to provide your own mains water and electricity supply and I assume some sort of drainage so it would cost significantly more than the £20k quoted.
I agree it'd be a nice little holiday getaway.
If it’s done properly surely there are no problems. The developed in question probably wanted to demolish the listed building.
there are plenty of examples in Dublin. The millhouse in Bellevue apartments in islandbridge was listed, as was Clancy barracks and the adjoining officers mess. They’ve all been turned into apartments with the original facade retained.
Unusual decoration!
Thats better
Ah yes the caveats of the powers that be enforcing a minimum price of getting a roof over your head
Prime development location smack bang in the middle of Lucan village. It will probably go or more than that.
The problem with these sheds being offered as accommodation to be rent out is they dont come anywhere near meeting the building regs which means they dont meet the fire regs either. There are thousands of these sheds all over Dublin rented out to students. Sooner or later one of them is going to go on fire and if the consequences are fatal then the landlord will find himself in handcuffs for contributing to someones death by knowingly renting out a shed that didint meet the fire regulations. If that happens then the councils will be forced to crack down on them.
Fud.
They'd be too easy to escape from for that to happen. In this country they blast fear into us about everything to do with legalities and liability. It keeps the insurance industry ticking over
It's hard to escape when you're asleep, probably with no smoke alarm.
a smoke alarm, a fire extinguisher and plenty of windows. What more can be done?
follow the fire regs?
that’s my question. What more fire regs are there? Seems safer than a 2 bed flat with windows at one side on the 8th floor. Let alone a studio with a single window up high.
50 shades of....
A very weirdly shaped kitchen/living/dining room.
If you go on street view do a 180° and I think it's the extension on the corner.
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