Well that's a fairly bizarre sideways allegation! I was trying to figure out what you might have meant by your original post, and never got near that for a guess.
Do you think their medals are suspicious?
I think the fact that it's in the same hemisphere and time zone must also have been a help. I'm guessing many Australian and New Zealand athletes across all sports have actually competed in Japan before, unlike their European and US counterparts.
Way OTT usual exaggeration
You will always have some fights that are questionable...and even with very close fights you will have idiots shouting robbery and corruption..
The very nature of the sport and the subjectivity will never have a syste that is perfect Vast majority fights see the right winner
Not exacly my point. More to do with testers not being able to enter the country without giving notice and quarantine. Just an observation.
I doubt it. If anything would it make it harder to go to competitions and all. All top competitors in most countries would have been in there own bubbles anyway. Unless they got qualification due to the years deferment
I mean boxing has kinda proven to be the most corruptible judges sport in recent years
Cruel luck on Natalya. It's actually very controversial that she was given a useless and uncooperative horse and that it happened to her and the German girl. A horse playing up to this extent and refusing at smallish fences is not normal.....she has every right to feel devastated. Questions will be asked at how these horses were selected.
So no to boxing then. In fairness to judges they have a points system and there are multiple to make it fare. You could say a referee is a judge in a way
Definitely possible I'd say, can't have done any harm anyway. Open to correction but i think all New Zealand's golds have come on the water, apart from 7s rugby. They seem to be very good at targeting events over there.
There are a lot of competitions in the Olympics that don't interest me at all, mainly due to the subjective nature of the scoring.
Anything that needs the opinion of a judge or the cooperation of an animal, I'm out.
I wonder has no flights and strict quarantines anything to do with the massive medal hauls of both Australia and New Zealand?
That's probably true. Though I imagine people will ask if there can't be a better system than pertains now, but I don't know enough about it to have the answer.
Unlucky?
Ah look..... How was Sunita unlucky? Rory? Walker?
Being beaten in a close contest or not performing on the day isn't bad luck really. It's all about performing under pressure on a given day.
Personally think 5 medals is about par for the course, a second gold would push it from being a decent to a very good games imho.
Probably more to do with cost nowadays. Competitors couldnt be hauling horses around the world in a sport with minimal financial reward.
When De Coubertin devised the modern pentathlon over a century ago, it was based around the concept of what he believed made up the perfect soldier, so riding and handling an unfamiliar horse was part of that whole concept, something you might have to master if you were in battle as it were. It's tradition basically.
If we do get 2 gold's it will be only the 2nd time we have done it with 2 athletes the other in the 30s. The only time we got 3 was Smith so an already good games could be historic by the weeks end.
I agree though that it could have been a little more and we should certainly aim higher next time
Was a time if we got 4 medals in a Olympics we nearly have a weeks national holiday..
4 medals is a decent return. Although I think we have the capabilities to try and get 6-8 medals with a little bit more of a push.
We had no luck in those 50/50 situations. O Connor, Sanita, Rhys, Walker, Rory(even ladies been unlucky so far), Coyle and Barr(maybe not medal but top 6 was within reach) were all very unlucky.
With just a bit of luck we could of had 6 medals maybe 7.
GB have had their fair share of false starts (own fault) crashes (not own fault) and mid race injuries and withdrawals
Out of curiosity why is this event different. Why do you not use your own horse ?
To be honest I just want the games to be over now. Havents enjoyed a minute since last Sunday.
The concept of the pentathlon is based around the traditional disciplines of combat - shooting, running, fencing, riding etc - and I guess testing a riders ability to handle an unfamiliar horse is a part of that tradition, going all the way back to de Coubertain who devised it. Maybe time to rethink things though, sure there'll be a debate about it anyway.
Coyle and the German girl wouldnt even be engaged on the Laser Run. All their hopes were shattered. Really Really hard luck. We have really had so little luck in these Olympics other than the kind draw Aidan Walsh got. Im sure every country has had a shade of bad luck but in comparison to the medals we won ours hs been horrofic. I doubt GB had 50 hard luck stories.
I mean, if they have to have the horse lottery round, why can't they let them all off together for the laser run? Or at equal intervals or something? Your start delay being so wildly impacted by a bolshy horse seems like cruel and unusual punishment.
They had an appeal in didn't they so not sure what happened with that? Wouldn't surprise me if she wasn't there, was not in a very good place after the riding.
I'd like to see what the positions would be if the horses were taken out.
I wonder is the German girl even doing this last stage?
So the lazer is something like the winter biathlon with no show a lazer gun and probably not as far to run
I need to pop out with the boys but they don’t want to miss this. I don’t know anything about pentathlon, how much is left?
The essence of sport is that on any given day any competitor can win.
nobody on that last horse had a possibility of winning.
I suppose you’d be hoping at least 1 of the 2 horse would be a cooperative horse.
