This rise it was introduced to protect juries....it was juries accuiting,clearly guilty people brought it about (most famously a clareman,who had juries shake his hand after being foune innocent)
To my eyes the legislation is outdated,hasnt been updated/reformed,so disband it,its been long enough....hiding behind kinehan,dunden etc is a poor excuse to impede peoples human rights here,or anywhere for that matter
What's the alternative that still protects innocent jurors?
Would you want to be a juror on a case involving the likes of the Dundons, Kinahens, Slab etc ?
SF gave him a wide berth this time. Feile helping the "sports washing" of Daniel Kinahen is not a good look all the same.
Stand over this farce all yous want mate,to my eyes it deosnt work and has no place in 21st century....an inabilty to reform,leads to conslusion,it should be disbanded
Would you be happy for your friends and relatives to be convicted on evidemce available in case 2,do you feel level of physical evidemce presemted (essemtially a pipe with a hole drilled in it,contents of usb not shared-was dates/times of commerations/protests) is enough to lock people up for yesrs??
Case #1.
I believe the legal terminology is "Got off on a technicality".
Case #2.
This is exactly how the SCC should work.
Case #3.
Irish Council for Civil Liberties and O' Gorman.
Two right beauties there no doubt.
Great night in Belfast tonight at the Feile, some difference to the 12th
Thats Catholic Belfast, celebrating our land not burning flags on bonfires
From the charter......
Do not post any material that you know or should know is hateful, abusive, harassing, false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, vulgar, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or illegal.
This only mere weeks ago
Hopefully he takes the state,judges and gaurds involved for all they have and all their pensions
The "evidence" in this case is simply farcial and should never seen inside of a courtroom,no mind convicting someone
How or why it wasnt reformed after this is beyond comprehemsion
Oh look at the fluffy rabbits over here thats in an integrated warren or something SF blah blah.....just lets get away from that pesky Irish Times thingy
Not fit for purpose you say...
It won't be too hard for you to fire up a few examples of it convicting the wrong people so.
Ive never claimed jury trails are associated with british colonies (they based on common law-type of law used here and in uk btw)
There is no justification for supporting a court,that a politically appointed gaurd can claim.blanch152 is in the ira and that is evidence enough for conviction.....a right to silence deosnt exist,as a refusal to answer questions,allows the gaurds to infer guilt and present it as evidence
With the advancement in technology and surrveilence,the above are too repressive for modern era and since it hasnt been reformed,it should be disbanded,they have had long enough
They don't 'oppose' integrated education. Do your research.
How about championing backing up your claims? Or withdraw them as without any foundation except in your head?
An interesting article on integrated education, something I have championed for a long time.
"Identity in the greater Belfast region, where Alliance is on the rise in electorally significant numbers, has never been more fluid. Outside Belfast, old suspicions lurk. LT suggests up to 72% of SF supporters want kids educated together."
SF's opposition to integrated education is looking like an old policy that they might have to drop.
So the bizarre claim you are making goes something like this.
'Garda investigations' led them to identify this witness and they went to Darren O'Rourke TD to get him to get the witness they had identified to talk?
That about right?
Can you back up any of this? Start with the Garda investigation that led them to identify this guy as a witness....
Pat Marry's evidence was clear, he had to go to Darren O'Rourke TD to get the witness to talk. The bullsh!t story that he came forward himself was made up afterwards.
Can you link to the times article you reckon your bullshït is "consistent" with?
From the Irish Times
The break in the case came in February 2017 when the witness contacted Louth Sinn Féin Cllr Antóin Watters through Facebook and told him he had information. Mr Watters put him in touch with Mr Marry.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/sinn-f%C3%A9in-witness-consulted-party-over-aaron-brady-case-before-speaking-to-garda%C3%AD-1.4332502
No, my account is consistent with the Irish Times report, and I'll take that over your version of the world every day.
Nonsense, you have never explained precisely why the SCC is in breach of human rights or explained why jury trials are so associated with former British Empire colonies.
Jury trials are open to bias, discrimination and intimidation, all of which could breach the human rights of victims and criminals.
No, the Gardai did not find him through 'investigation'.
The court was told that he contacted a SF party member saying he had information, that member put him in touch with Mr Marry the lead investigator who stated that his information was vital to their break through.
Another round of mis-representation of the facts there from you blanch
Didn't he have to go to Gerry Adams to get permission to speak to the Gardai?
The Gardai, through investigation, identified him as someone who would have valuable information. When they apporached him, he told them he had to get the permission of Gerry to speak to them. Hardly class that as coming forward.
Didn't live in the country, wanted to know if the Garda heading the case could be trusted.
Fact is, he was a republican, he gave the breakthrough evidence. Alive and well and unmolested.
Meanwhile Mark and Co. build a myth.
Then you look at the Garda scandals and note who was doing the 'intimidating' there.
Its an achievement to get so many basic facts wrong in 2 sentences🤣🤣
The scc has no place in modern world,its not fit for purpose and you cant claim to support human rights,while allowing it to exist here...it hasnt been reformed despite promises to do so,time has come to disband it...sf are a joke to not vote againest it,id rate pbp higher than em for at least opposeing it
Anyone whom lacks principles,likely lacks character required to lead
Give the jury any protection needed?
Its not as if judges were ever beyond the reach of paramilitaries anyway....the whole court is a farce
Maybe he didn't trust his mates in SF and their Irish Republican mates. We all know what happens to informers in Republican areas.
Very very very odd and weird that a witness had to clear it with a political party rather than go to the Gardai.
Not a normal party.
Do you mean a witness you consulted the party BEFORE talking to the Gardai? What was all that about.
Sinn Fein, the cult, strikes again!!
Yes, the witness who didn't trust the Gardai and checked first.
And STILL gave their evidence to the Gardai which gave the Gardai their breakthrough according to to the senior garda.
You are digging quite the hole here mark, like last night. Keep 'er lit as they say up here.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/sinn-f%C3%A9in-witness-consulted-party-over-aaron-brady-case-before-speaking-to-garda%C3%AD-1.4332502?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fcrime-and-law%2Fsinn-f%25C3%25A9in-witness-consulted-party-over-aaron-brady-case-before-speaking-to-garda%25C3%25AD-1.4332502
So you have no awareness of the case. As I said.
Gardai got their breakthrough when the witness came forward.
And guess what Mark?...I think he was a member of SF.
Isn't that awful for your hypothesis Agatha?
No, the breakthrough came with the work and efforts of the Gardai in collecting evidence to put this man who had links to criminal gangs and Irish Republicans behind bars.
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