Facial recognition has been found to have important localised processing in the aptly named ‘fusiform face region’ in the fusiform gyrus of the brain and certain areas of the temporal lobe. It is also facilitated by oxytocin and other brain hormones which link emotional responses to individual faces in memory.
Can you post the independent peer reviewed research that proves that?. You talk of prejudice LOL
Where does it say people remember cars any less?
It depends on what a person is interested or expert in
Gauthier et al., in an adversarial collaboration with Kanwisher,[6] tested both car and bird experts, and found some activation in the FFA when car experts were identifying cars and when bird experts were identifying birds.[7] This finding has been replicated,[8][9] and expertise effects in the FFA have been found for other categories such as chess displays[10] and x-rays.[11] Recently, it was found that the thickness of the cortex in the FFA predicts the ability to recognize faces as well as vehicles.[12]
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Psychologists debate whether the FFA is activated by faces for an evolutionary or expertise reason. The conflicting hypotheses stem from the ambiguity in FFA activation, as the FFA is activated by both familiar objects and faces. A study regarding novel objects called greebles determined this phenomenon.[21] When first exposed to greebles, a person's FFA was activated more strongly by faces than by greebles. After familiarising themselves with individual greebles or becoming a greeble expert, a person's FFA was activated equally by faces and greebles
The FFA is activated by both familiar objects and faces. Is a car a familiar object? It is over simplification to say people are innate to remember faces more than cars.
Laugh out loud stuff in the w/c podcast, especially the game is on episode (7 I think), hard to believe in places. what the French make of it I can only imagine....
Just finished watching it.
Even after putting aside what the locals say about him and your own opinion of him, you can't help shake that he did it.
It's mad he is still living there.
lol at the gardai and their drawing of his arms with the scratches. Embarrassing for them.
All the innocent people put in jail based on eye witnesses and exonerated with dna would be delighted to know people are innately better at remembering people than objects. And it must also explain Marie Farrells short sallow skinned man morphing into the not short or sallow skinned Ian Bailey.
People who work with cars may remember the car more than the owner.
Ehhm, no. You are just unable to accept anything that contradicts your prejudices. Facial recognition has been found to have important localised processing in the aptly named ‘fusiform face region’ in the fusiform gyrus of the brain and certain areas of the temporal lobe. It is also facilitated by oxytocin and other brain hormones which link emotional responses to individual faces in memory.
Damage or abnormal stimulation of these area of the brain causes impairment in the recognition of faces but not general objects. There’s also special impairments in face recognition and processing of emotions expressed only in the face in certain disorders like autism spectrum.
People remember people better than objects, it's an innate part of us. If you were shown 20 cars with various features you would be hard pressed to recall the details of three or four accurately, if you were introduced to 20 people at a party you'd remember most if not all of them.
There is no evidence for that, or that it is an innate part of us. it is just an opinion you have
I watched the 2 shows
Came out believing he's guilty
The alibi thing did it for me, no way an alcoholic is going off writing an article after arriving back drunk to the house
Plus he changed the story
I think it was a Garda that said it on the podcast that West Cork had a mixture of both in 1996, and they couldn't track calls as they went cross hetwork.
Believe it or not Ireland had one of the most advanced telecommunications infrastructure in Europe at one time. Exchanges would have been fully digital well before 1996.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
"Digital switching was introduced in 1980 using Ericsson AXE and Alcatel E10 switches both of which were manufactured at facilities in Ireland. This saw a total transformation of the telephone network with modern automatic and digital services reaching even the most rural parts of Ireland by the mid-1980s."
Itemised billing was available to customers by request. Detailed call records would have been needed by the phone company (Telecom Eireann) for billing purposes as time, duration, calling number and called number would all have been needed to determine call charges.
IB and Sophie had a landline, this was covered well in the West Cork podcast. They were on the old analog line so numbers called or the times were not logged on the phone system. I wonder how billing worked back then though? I seem to remember itemised bills in the late 80s.
That's a good point. Phone records are crucial. I also wonder what type of phones were involved. Mobile phones were already in use by 1996. Daniel claims Sophie phoned him at ca. 11pm the night in question. Did Sophie have a landline at the cottage, I wonder.
Exactly.
Like when Jules remembered IB had a scratch on his that wasnt there in the day before!?
People remember people better than objects, it's an innate part of us. If you were shown 20 cars with various features you would be hard pressed to recall the details of three or four accurately, if you were introduced to 20 people at a party you'd remember most if not all of them. Especially the face and our first interactions.
So he must be mistaken, if he is misremembering one thing who's to say any of it is accurate.
Sure, but how many cars would he see on any particular day? If someone said they noticed a car pulled into their driveway and it had no hubcaps you would be pretty sure about it, absolutely. There was one car that drew your attention. But after, what, 40-50 cars at least, his memory was first triggered by her photo in the news. Then you would be thinking about how she had to ask her passenger how to order the petrol, the guy being very tall and practically touching the roof of the car. He gave her age as being between 30-40, blonde hair in a pony tail, no make-up, english not great, grey or blue fiesta, 96 C reg. I find it incredible people would just dismiss this out of hand.
There's no reason to think he was paying, it sounds like neither of them got out of the car. This was an old fashioned service station where you pulled up and they filled it for you. The witness would have gone to the driver's side to ask how much they wanted and filled the car, he said the male passenger passed the money through the window but there's no reason to think it didn't come from her purse. On the other hand...
I've often wondered if she had picked up a hitchhiker on the road, maybe the hitchhiker got the wrong impression from her kindness and thought showing up at her door would lead to more. Maybe she had come straight from the airport and didn't have any Irish notes to pay for fuel so the person she picked up paid and said she could repay him sometime. She did take out £200 in Schull on the Saturday which suggests she may have arrived with no Irish currency. Complete speculation on my part.
I do think this was a major drop-the-ball moment for the gardai, they should have eliminated the people in the car definitively. It seems it didn't fit their ideas that IB just noticed Sophie in Schull doing her shopping and started stalking her there.
AGS seemed to do a fairly awful job of protecting the crime scene. My guess is they were run over my other cars.
I've read that somewhere too but haven't seen any detail similar to the possible Skibbereen garage sighting. How certain is it that the Ballydehob sighting was Sophie.
Both sightings should be compared for the consistency or inconsistency of descriptions of the car and driver. It is possible both, one or none of the sightings were Sophie. Determining which should have been important.
On a dull day a silver car may appear grey.
Inaccuracies in statements is one thing but I'm just pointing out according to his own statement he is describing a different car. He made a particular point about it, so he has remembered that detail correctly according to him.
Just on the fiestas if the one seen bombing around at 7am had a red reg it was an older model. I've read the Seargent had a blue fiesta, was his an older model?
The skid marks by the gate, surely to god they were photos of them taken? My cousin vinny would be all over that
I think I read somewhere the Ballydehob sighting had no male passenger in the car.
The garage owner is also certain that it was Sophie. His statement was made two weeks later. It wouldn't be unusual, for a statement make after two weeks to have some inaccuracies, especially in small details.
A possible sighting close to the time she is believed to have been seen in Ballydehob, fifteen minutes away, should have been followed up and positively confirmed or eliminated. That it was never traced is a loose end that leaves too many important questions unanswered in the investigation adding to the doubt of any one particular narrative.
I seriously doubt that Bailey would have been paying for the rich French lady`s petrol. Anyway the hubcaps are important in this sighting. He was clear that there were none. Sophie`s car had hubcaps. It wasn`t her.
According to Nick Foster, only Sophie and her housekeeper had keys to the house. The housekeeper's husband kept animals on Sophie's land. He could have been using the bath and the housekeeper forgot a time or two to clean up after him. (?) I have no idea who owned the property before Sophie or if they were still in the area and could be using it knowing she was seldom there.
"The possibility that someone may have been with Sophie should surely have been significant to the investigation. That it was never established if the car was hers seems a serious oversight."
Once it was established that it was unlikely to be Ian Bailey they soon dismissed it.
Unless of course Ian Bailey drove to Cork airport to pick up Sophie in Jules' Fiesta.
(The fiestas all over the place is like the the green beetle in Bullit.)
The pushed back front seat was discussed earlier, some said they come like that out of the hire garage, others pointed out it could be just she pushed it back to get something that dropped under it or to accommodate a shopping bag in the front footwell, either way to try to use it as evidence of a tall person sitting in the front is in line with most other evidence against Bailey, half baked clutching at straws.
Nick Foster seems to have graduated from the Martin Bashir school of journalism.
Another detail that could have helped the investigation if it was followed up e.g. if the description of the woman buying firewood was consistent with the description of the woman who stopped for petrol in the garage in Skibbereen or were there any other details that might help confirm if they were the same person + car or not.
It is bizarre to think that more wasnt done to find out if the car seen at the garage was Sophies. What time did Sophie fly into Ireland at?
If it was Sophie who was the man in the car with her - yes it could be Ian Bailey or it could be someone who flew over with her, or it could be somebody she collected on her way from the airport. Can we be sure she was even on her own in the house and didnt have a houseguest?
Given the time of year though and alot of people were on the move - Friday afternoon before Christmas it is possible it was someone else completely.
The petrol station didn't sell firewood ,so she went on to the shop in Ballydehob that did.
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