Not necessarily- whoever did this could have admired her from afar or indeed simply said hello to her one day- a relationship is actually far from likely IMHO
Indeed, in his diaries read out in court IB described several women he observed and the pleasure he got from fantasising about them. Not untypical for your average male, but who writes that kind of stuff out in black and white? I think there’s a part of himself that horrifies even him and the diaries play that horrific fascination he has with himself out.
If he was a total stranger, or just someone she knew to see around, would she have come out of her house to talk him in the middle of the night/very early in the morning? I'm not suggesting a full-on relationship/affair (although it's not impossible), more likely a few brief conversations, maybe a low-level flirtation that probably meant a lot more to him than it did to her.
Do you have a source for his ex-wife saying he'd never been violent towards her. I've only just started Foster's book but I've heard that he was violent towards his ex.
Bailey say Gardai told him his life had been threatened by an anonymous caller to the Garda station
EDIT. @MoonUnit75 Sorry,posted this in the wrong place, it was meant to be a stand alone post as it is not really a reply to your post but I cannot delete and move
Photographer^^
In fairness anything bailey says like that can be taken with a pinch of salt
It's in the DPP's report https://syndicatedanarchy.wordpress.com/category/uncategorized/
"Sarah Limbrick, Bailey’s former wife who has known him since the 1970’s has asserted that he never used violence towards her person."
and it's also the basis on which he was successful in his defamation case against two newspapers. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ian-bailey-s-libel-action-fails-against-six-out-of-eight-newspapers-1.1130651?mode=amp
"Judge Moran found that the articles, which had said that Mr Bailey was the chief suspect for the murder of Ms Sophie Toscan du Plantier in December 1996, were justified.
He found in favour of Mr Bailey in relation to one allegation contained in articles published by two newspapers who claimed he had been violent towards his former wife. Judge Moran found that no evidence was brought to support this contention in articles in the Sun and the Irish Mirror, and he awarded Mr Bailey damages of €4,000 against each of them."
Photographer^^??
https://www.thesun.ie/news/7381166/ian-bailey-gardai-attempt-life-death-threat/
Thanks, that's quite emphatic and hopefully true.
It could be true or exxagerated
We've still only Bailey's word for it, he knows.the gardai don't comment so he can spin it how he likes
Absolutely, when Sinead O’Connor confronted him he rang the newspapers with a BS story that she wanted to put his poems to music. She was wise enough to record their conversation.
Is there something I'm missing. Why does everyone assume that IB would have had to have walked when he says he had access to Jules' car that weekend. Is there a reason to assume he would have walked.
I think it's assumed whoever carried out the murder would have had plenty of blood on them so if her car was used there would be traces of blood in it. That's assuming the Gardai checked it of course.
Doesn't fit with the sighting at Kealfada bridge..............
First arrest was over 45 days after the murder. They should have moved much faster to seize any suspect’s car and clothes etc.
There was a person seen walking down at the causeway but there’s no reason to think they had to stay in the car at all times before or after the murder.
Because, much like the investigation at the time, they seem to be starting with one person and trying to work backwards rather than starting with the evidence and trying to work forwards.
How do you know it is a BS story and Sinead O Connor was telling the truth.She is a big a fantasists as Bailey. Bailey being threatened is at least as likely to be true as any news report you linked in your anti Bailey stance. I'm sure if he had admitted the killing you would belive it as it would suit your narrative. I doubt garda would alllow such a comment unchallenged if it were not true
Maybe the blue fiesta that was seen was jules' white fiesta
Maybe, the guy in the petrol station who said he served a French woman that looked like Sophie, around the time she would have been passing, said she was in a hired fiesta. He was able to say it had a 96 C or CE reg but he got the colour wrong, he said he thought the silver car was blue or grey. Fiestas seem to crop up all over this story.
Is anyone seriously ‘pro-Bailey’? He beat his partner to a pulp multiple times, was subsequently prosecuted and barred from approaching the area for three months. He wrote about wanting to kill ‘anyone’ in his diary and wrote after one beating of his partner ‘I actually tried to kill her’. In the wake of the murder he heavily implied Sophie’s grieving husband was responsible for her death with not a shred of evidence and again in the witness box in court. He went after the murdered woman’s reputation, claiming her house was a ‘love nest’ and she brought a stream of men there. She had one lover to the house, who had not been there in years. He’s got a conviction for drink driving and, most recently, drug driving.
How about amalgamating the two threads on this topic?
You really don't Understand the issue here. We are talking about a murder, a killing.
We are not talking about domestic abuse or writing dirty things in a personal diary or someone being a bad person.
This is about a murder.
You can keep bringing up, again and again and again the beatings, the circumstantial evidence, the fake confessions, drink driving, drug driving all you like, but in a court of law prosecuting the Murder of this poor woman, it is all irrelevant.
You are welcome to continue ignoring it all.
I'm not ignoring it. I'm telling you that it is not relevant to the murder.
Is there a source for the detail about the car description seen at the petrol station? (partial number plate and colour) Does this detail match Sophie's rental car?
I've read about the garage sighting, variously describing the car as blue/green or blue/grey but not with the partial number plate detail.
Is there a reference somewhere to the garage owner mentioning the partial number plate and to the actual description of Sophie's rental car?
It's in Nick Foster's book, really worth reading. He had an interesting visit to meet the guy who still works at the garage, with IB.
Unfortunately I don't have the book. How does the garage owner's description of the car (make, model, colour, any distinguishing features, number plate) compare to the car rented by Sophie?
Here’s an excerpt of his statement, taken 3rd of January 1997:
“My name is Sean Murray and I am a salesman at Hurley’s Garage, Ilen Street, Skibbereen. I wish to state that before Christmas, most likely Friday the 20th between 2pm and 3pm a car called to the pumps for petrol. The car was a Ford Fiesta. It was blue or grey. It had a ’96 Reg. The Reg. may have had CE or C in it. I am sure that this car was a Fiesta and that it was a hired car because the hub caps were missing. I am in the motor trade and I would recognise a hired car. The driver of this car fitted the description of the murder victim in Schull. She had longish shoulder length hair tied in a ponytail. Her hair was gold blonde. She was an attractive woman with very little makeup.”
“The car approached from the town side. There was a gent sitting in the passenger seat. As the car was parked on the r/ h side of the pump this gent’s seat would have been next to the pump. I asked the lady what she wanted. She did not appear to understand. At this point the gent said something to her. She then smiled and said “full, please” to me. I filled the car with unleaded petrol. The gent handed the money to me through the passenger window. I don’t think the car took much petrol. I think he may have given me a 10 pound note and that the bill was an even tenner. I noted the gent in the car was tall. His head was nearly touching the roof. The gent was around the same age or might have been a bit older than the lady. He was wearing a medium coloured jacket with the collar turned up. I did not get a very good look at his features. He was not a heavy man but he was tall. He had medium length dark hair. Due to his height I did not see much of the top of his head. He could have had a beard. He did not speak to me but looked Irish. The car drove off in the Schull direction.”
Sophie's hire car was a silver Fiesta and the reg was 96 C ...
Her car had hubcaps
Yes, and the colour wasn't definite either, the detail of the reg, the driver's looks, trouble with english/witness accent, and the timing are difficult to dismiss though.
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