Disaster of a start for the girls 0-01 1-02 down. Been careless in possession but as I type a great goal chance but a good save by the Donegal keeper but a chance that should have been taken... a huge slice of luck for the Donegal goal the ball wasn’t going anywhere near in but the huge amount of spin on the ball and it’s in the net... and just there very unlike Sinead Ahern to miss a handy free. Plenty of skullduggery by the Donegal girls, lots or arm pulling and stuff off the ball.
Yeah and other counties players/fans used to be sniggering at Dublin behind their hands. 'Ah sure the Dubs bring great colour' etc. Meanwhile they went away with the medals.
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Anyway back to the present day. I figure there will be some scramble for tickets for th AI SF. Mayo are hungry feckers for tickets normally. It is definitely has a nice set up to it.
I can't see Tyrone winning in the other SF. If they do it will be one of the greatest shocks probably since Donegal beat Dublin in 2014. Mayo I think have the best chance for years. At that is trying to look at it objectively.
we certainly underacheived for a very long time it used to bug me when i hear a dublin player called a great and he has one medal for his efforts that is nothing to what a great should have in a top county .If things had been organised correctly we should have been the county to win in any average year with the numbers possible and not the likes of Kerry .
Plus the the AI final losses in 92, 94 and the SF in 93 all collectively really hurt as well. Especially after that loss in the Leinster 'four in a row' in 91 to Meath. That one AI between 1984 and 2010 inclusive does not cover a lot of the hurt. Especially considering Dublin had justifiable 'notions' for a lot of it. In my opinion in every decade a football team like Dublin should be winning 2/3 AI's a decade. Anything less is underachievement. KK/Tipp would think the same in hurling. If not something is going wrong somewhere. When Kerry did not win Sam between 87 to 96 inclusive, it was a real crisis!
I believe it was Colm Parkinson who said in a conversation with Alan Brogan when he was a young fella. That Brogan said at time he was guaranteed an AI. Parkinson asked him why.
Brogan said if he plays for Dublin for about 10 years or so, and on average Dublin won about at least one Sam in that period. 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's etc.
On reflection I think it was a terrible underachievement for Dublin football, one AI per decade or so is just not good enough. It happened for a variety of reasons I suppose more suitable for discussions on other threads. It is even worse when you consider that many of those very early winning Dublin football teams in the GAA were full of Non-Dubs so it was not really a Dublin team until very late in GAA history.
That was a very poor U/17/Minor performance. They are only juveniles really at end of day and a year could make some difference to a lot of them and new players will come along. Appeared the occasion got to the players with so many basic errors. However we have good U/20s despite the defeat to Offaly who were very good against Cork.
We never really challenge at minor yet we get players coming through to senior squad. U/17 is very young to be judging players. We have seen many prodigies over the years who never got to play senior in both codes.
The one thing we do need to look at is skills coaching. So much from a young age is based around winning juvenile leagues and we take our eye off the development of skills.
What followed after the 1995 All Ireland win. One provincial win in nine years. One solitary semi-final appearance in that time,as well as being knocked out off Leinster by Laois and Westmeath in consecutive years.
What would you consider dark days?
pretty grim result from Tullamore bad week for the underage
There's dark days ahead for our senior side going on the evidence of what I've witnessed in the U20 and now Minor Leinster Finals.
Meath with the first point after good work by Dublin, the ball is literally dropped and Meath point the free..
One point in the entirety of the first half...
God help us if that's what we've got coming through. I'll just leave it at that.
I am 3000 miles away so don’t have any evidence, just what my eyes show me and something is just not right this year. Fenton was very quiet yesterday and everyone can have days like that but this year I have noticed him being more emotional, getting involved in some after the ball is gone stuff and mouthing off, he was never like that before, he was calmness personified. I thought some of our shooting yesterday especially in the first half was very un-Dublin like, I also thought we had some chances and did not pull the trigger. I think Rock’s reaction to being subbed was also something “new” and worrying. The Cluxton, Mannion and McCaffrey exits raised my eyebrows too. I have seen it in other sports, it’s the 2nd season after a very successful manager/coach leaves when the cracks begin to appear.
I’m old (and lucky) enough to remember the resurgence of the Dubs back in 1974 and the great run we had until 1978 when the wheels fell off the wagon. I think we are about to see the wheels fall off again, I just hope it’s a little less painful than the final in 1978 where we were destroyed by Kerry. It’s hard to believe the run this group has had since 2011, never thought I would see the likes of it and enjoyed every minute of it. On a selfish note if the wheels do fall off I hope the Kickhams lads say enough is enough and return to the club for the remainder of their playing careers.
Hope I’m wrong!!!!!!!!
According to Willie Jo blog tickets going through the clubs .He's properly right on this occasion .
Very fair point. Kilkenny got a few raw deals and a few decisions went against Limerick that were not pulled up before. The only saving grace for this squad is they are know as footballing side. We dont have "stoppers" like other sides.
What's the jackanory with tickets lads? Info is like trying to get a hold of the third secret of Fatima Mansions.
Lads. What's happened to the Reservoir Dubs site? .It's telling me their domain has gone and I can't log in..
Referees need to forget the color of the jerseys and who is wearing them... just apply the rules, equally in every minute of every game ... current standards are just laughably poor but it seems to be Dublin on the receipt and often having to navigate opposition 15 and incompetent officials with an agenda ...
The thing about refereeing is that we are not going to get the 50/50 decisions. That is what happens to all great teams. Look at Seamus Darby stopping the Kerry 5-in-a-row, he pushed the Kerry back before scoring the goal. Same in other sports, look at the Arsenal team, kicked off the pitch in their attempt to go 50 unbeaten with the assistance of the referee.
We will get pulled up for overcarrying even if our forward is fouled. We will get punished for dissent. So far, we have escaped black and red cards - they are coming, it happens to all great teams so that the competition will be levelled. Now, this is not a criticism of referees, it is the David vs Goliath underdog thing coming to the fore and happening sub-consciously.
Its the one thing you cant have enough of... But I just think we need someone else in half forwards. Possibly Paddy Small someone very nippy not necessarily with the pace of Murchan.
Maybe that pace links the defense and attack better then actually if he was a half forward but either way he’d be effective...
with that awesome pace and athleticism there really isn’t a way to deal with it unless you have two or three on him almost from when he receives the football, which might or will leave you over exposed elsewhere.... try foul him to slow up attacks... could work, the standards of refereeing being so atrocious it could be the most obvious and achievable tactic
Murchan is like a missile going forward but I think teams will plan to deal with that now. The big concern is we dont appear to have enough pace around the field. Possibly they will play him as a half forward? Scully dropping deeper.......
It also seems like Dessie doesn't know his "best" team yet and is still tinkering around with selections and pairings in key positions. The truncated league and AI campaigns have probably fed into this but for me he's still a bit unsure about what he wants.
The pace of Murchan is unreal, there was a point where he picked up the ball just inside his own 45 and in about 7 or 8 seconds had ran up to the Kildare 45, looked like his feet weren’t touching the grass, phenomenal athlete.
Kildare set up not to concede goals and it worked well for them. They had a plan and stuck well to it. For all that Dublin hit 20 points.
My concern is also about lack of pace. Each team left has serious pace in the squads and Im not sure we have. The defense was better and thats a plus and also seen glimpses of what they usually do. The game will have brought the team on BUT Im not sure it is enough.
We can find deficiencies in each team that is left but I think they will be better teams than what we have faced over the last 3/4 years.
I think if Kerry beat Tyrone they will win Sam. Hope Im wrong..... There is a matter of Mayo first and they look better than previous years.
Seen it fairly regularly over the past few seasons, especially when the game was well in hand and the opposition were sitting with 14 men behind the ball.
I thought we were far better today than the previous games. Looked a lot better on and off the ball. Still plenty to improve but to me it looks like the team is just starting to hit stride. Let's not forget, we are into the meaty end of the season without breaking a sweat and shipping very few injuries.
saw an awful lot of backward passing from some advanced postions today several times no player in support in some good postions .
Ok fair enough but I think in that same position before (in free flowing years) players would be giving options left and right. To me it was hesitation that killed move. Before you would have lads going for the kill giving support options. Where Collie was a fella like Bernard would be cutting in snappy ready to curl it over. Seemed really odd to me to have to resort to a big pass backwards. How often did you see a Dublin team having to that from an attacking position?
It was collie who played the ball back as he was isolated with 3 Kildare players around him, he took the correct option and it resulted in a point. No player would try and take a ball into contact with three of the opposition.
Kildare got their tactics as good as they could get them today. Fair play to them. Defend in numbers when required and run at Dublins defence when they had the chance.
I think you have hit the nail on the head about Dublin regarding the pace. Especially in the final third I was shouting where’s the zip? Rather than taking on men quick change of pace, mixed with quick interchange of passes. Movement and decision making is an issue as well, we see lads going for the backwards pass killing momentum. I think Ryan Basquel did a big long backways pass when he was in a dangerous area of the pitch. If it was Kevin Mc or Bernard they would have tried to skin their man.
Plus on top of lack of zip, the mantra of taking percentage shots has being forgotten. I remember one Hail Mary job from Fenton that went wide. Then there is the sloppiness was it Mick Fitz who got caught by Daniel Flynn dilly dallying? (Great player D Flynn is by the way) Very uncharacteristic stuff from Dublin. Three poor games in a row now just doing ‘enough’ with the same issues reappearing.
I actually fancy Mayo to win the next day, first time since 2019 where I thought Dublin could lose.
