Can someone at Boards.e confirm that the site is on the hosted version of Vanilla? If it is can boards.ie confirm how that affects their GDPR obligations given that Vanilla host their sites outside the EU.
The IP address from before the migration also pointed to Cloudflare. Cloudflare do not host the data, they provide services that sit between the clients and servers
It points to the location of the front end of the website.
Of course it does. The url points to the location of the data which is on a server in America
while the URL points there that does not necessarily mean the data is hosted there.
People are saying that the GDPR shouldn't be an issue because the site is being hosted in Canada however if you look at either https://sitechecker.pro/hosting-checker/ or https://www.site24x7.com/find-website-location.html then Boards.ie is hosted on a server in San Francisco, California, United States of America.
This means that the data is stored in the USA
Hi all
Just a quick note to let you know that we have fixed the cookie consent modal for both mobile and desktop. One user on twitter posted an issue with viewing on android but we have not been able to replicate. We have also finally got our privacy notice and cookie policy live. We are aware that there is an issue with viewing the links on mobile and are working on a fix.
Please accept my apologies for how long it took to get that sorted. It's unacceptable. We have had to figure a few things out the hard way on our new journey - but we are finally starting to make some real progress now.
Thanks again for your patience
Odhran
Yes.
For more information on GDPR and your statutory rights visit:
Further discussion taking place here:
https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058200779/gdpr-boards-ie-and-vanilla-how-does-this-work/p1
So all the data has been shipped off to canada.
I've just posted a new thread about GDPR here: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058200779/gdpr-boards-ie-and-vanilla-how-does-this-work#latest
Drafts are stored locally. Theres no network activity when you type, or when you stop typing. There is when you Post. And edit.
That doesn’t really address the concern of them being stored in the first place though.
I've removed all of the posts from today, my own included, to try and get this thread back on topic.
The validity of the concerns which prompted people to start this thread are not in question, so no more posts along the lines of telling people to suck it up or "just don't log in" from here on out.
Posts of that manner will be deleted and users may be punished.
do you have anything constructive to add?
You started the thread!! You obviously cared enough about what's a trivial issue to users in the context of this site, to create it. I'm asking a fairly basic, really simple question, why do you care about GDPR on this site? Perhaps it's a very valid concern that we should all be worried about, highly doubt it though.
I asked a couple of questions. I don't feel like like I need to to justify why I asked those questions to you. It is certainly not because I am wound up.
Seems like yourself and a few others, specifically (and ironically profile named) MarkODaly are wound up, I mean you created the thread. The questions and the manner in which they're worded certainly seems like there's folks here wound up. It's way, way down the list of importance to be fair, or rather it should be in the minds of users. For the owners of boards, its obviously something they need to take seriously, but again, what PID have people shared that they're so worried about? What are you so worried about? The site itself is complete and utter mess, with users gone in their absolute droves - the vast majority of which don't give two hoots about insignificant GDPR issues.
Not in any way defending the shitshow of an upgrade, just genuinely dont understand the concern unless you've provided all sorts of unnecessary personal to boards.
people are asking questions. Questions about stuff that should have been done prior to migration. Nobody is wound up.
Why are people so mind boggling concerned about something they'd never heard of two years ago? What personally identifiable information are you concerned about being leaked? The site upgrade is a complete disaster, but getting so wound up about it GDPR of all things, with regard to this site is bizarre. Again, what PID have you all provided to boards that you're so concerned about leaking?
I think the point Kaiser (and others) are trying to make is that the implementation of the move to Vanilla should never have happened until the changeover was made compliant with all legalities.
Telling an established member of the Boards community with 20 years of activity on the site to suddenly "pack up and ship off" is exactly why so many people are annoyed about this. Many users are here decades and have spend a lot of time watching the community they created disintegrate in front of them.
Dude you seem to be taking this all very personally.
Take a chill pill and maybe take another break from the site. If you're still very angry when you get back, then maybe you just have to decide the place isn't for you. Spending so much energy launching vitriol at the couple of employees trying to sort things isn't healthy. Might be time to pack up and ship off?
Yes, it all seems like an afterthought, like all this could have been done prior to the migration, no? Especially when there are legal and statuary obligations by boards.ie on the matter.
I did cover it and linked it.
I cannot consent to the cookie policy, (which doesn't even exist) and I cannot withdraw my consent.
None of which addresses the points being raised.
Whether some users don't care anyway is irrelevant. A lot do, and there is a legal obligation on site owners to facilitate choice and information for those users (and everyone on the site)
The bottom line though is that this is yet another sloppy element of this migration, and the response from Niamh (while well-intentioned I'm sure) does nothing to address it - "I don't think" (anything changed), and "as soon as we can" doesn't cut it... but it is consistent with everything else around fixing this site at the moment.
Do you realise that the vast majority of internet users regard the constant barrage of requests to consent to cookie as a form of abuse. They think that GDPR is something nasty which was introduced to make their computer harder to use. They don't care about being "spied" on - they just want to see a bus timetable, recipe, their email whatever.
These people (and I'm sure there are thousands of them for each privacy nerd who is grateful for cookie-consent messages) are probably absolutely delighted at needing one less pointless click to access the website.
if i can delete them, they must be getting stored somewhere prior? as in, you cant delete something that has not been stored?
as i said, no clue about this!
Click your avatar in the top right of the web page and you should see a drop down, one of the options should be for drafts. You can delete them there.
i have no clue about GDPR really at all, or internet servers and all the rest of it.
i'm concerned about the draft feature you have introduced.
if i draft a reply and never hit post, where is that draft saved to? if i revisit a thread after a few days, my draft is still there ready to go.
if its still there ready to go, it must be getting stored somewhere? as in, you are storing non posted posts?
Yes, that's the point. Cloudflare sits between the custard and the real web server which may be AWS, or may be anything - at this point, we just don't know because Boards will not tell us where our data is hosted.
You made a specific statement concerning a breach of GDPR, still wait for you to explain it! Examples of terms of use etc... do not cover it.
Hold the phone Jim. I joined up long before any move to Canada and did not consent to my data leaving the EU. Secondly, email address is personal data. I have never heard anyone suggest otherwise. The date need not be enough on its own to identify you for it to qualify. Fyi my email address includes my very unique name.
I'm ok with it if I'm honest and I get that moving the site left wrinkles that I'm sure will be resolved like cookie consent, etc but don't jump down throats because valid concerns have been raised.