The narrative reading Friday's papers seems to be a close call, Daly and Enda McEvoy slightly favouring Tipp, Derek predictably expecting a Waterford win.
I assume the change is more tactical than a reflection on who was dropped or not. Waterford the last day withdrew their forwards a lot, leaving Dessie Hutchinson up top on his own lots of the time. I assume that Sunday will be similar, Tipp will look to squeeze hard in the middle third to choke Waterford's running game at source. Waterford have their own particular style, unlike Cork or Limerick who use short quick passes to bypass congestion and tackles Waterford like to step around or run past the nearest opponent and then suck in another opponent before passing on. Tipp do the same a lot with their short puck outs, Barrett or Heffernan step inside or around their man, draw someone else toward them and then play the ball on.
In 2019 in the round robin Tipp used Sean O Brien against teams that they expected to play with three inside forwards and Alan Flynn when they expected a corner forward to play out around mid field. I think Barry Heffernan is really suited to that role, he'll follow his man and defend well but he blends in good time on the ball when Tipp have it along with usually some great fetches as well.
I really have no clue how tomorrow will pan out, we've had Waterford's number when it's counted for a good while, but under Cahill they are improving, how much we'll know tomorrow. We have no reason to believe that Tipp won't perform, this bunch have done it for us for so many times, now's not the time to doubt them.
I think most deserve it . Other than the 3rd quarter meltdown nobody really had a bad game .
Brendan Maher and noel McGrath maybe . But they are two of tipperary greatest ever players . And noel could've had 4 points in the first half.
I'd expect to see 5 subs used over the 70mins this time though
Thought we might get a couple of changes but not shocked to see just the one. Sheedy is backing them to deliver a response and know to never write these lads off. The middle is where i worry, get the forces marshalled effectively in that sector and I'd be more than hopeful we'll be ok.
Yeah surprised with Kennedy being dropped, thought Niall o Meara would get the start.
No idea how this will go tomorrow, real 50/50, we've obviously got the better players but not sure the fire is still there.
Definitely.
I know I flagged Kennedy has having a bad game the last day. I'm still surprised he was the only one who got the chop. Defo see him coming on. Other players can consider themselves them lucky
Eoghan Connolly has done very well to consistently win his place on the bench on a talented panel. Would love to see Connolly come on when they bring on Kiely.
Tipperary Senior Hurling team v Waterford:
One change
Barry Hogan
Cathal Barrett
Padraic Maher
Barry Heffernan
Paddy Cadell
Brendan Maher
Ronan Maher
Alan Flynn
Michael Breen
Jason Forde
Noel McGrath
Dan McCormack
Jake Morris
John O'Dwyer
Seamus Callanan
Tipp subs: Brian Hogan, Eoghan Connolly, Willie Connors, Paul Flynn, Mark Kehoe, Seamus Kennedy, Brian McGrath, John McGrath, Niall O'Meara, James Quigley, Dillon Quirke
For the Cahill obsessed, it's not a one-man show:
Yeah, it looks like a case of a team trying to work off ball movement versus a running game.
But it's knock out now. And it will be a war, and whoever has the most heart and fight will come out on top.
Match ups will be key.
Can't really see either of those teams lining out, mainly because Sheedy is not one to make huge changes from what has gone before, but some big calls are needed, and we need to react quicker on the line when plan A isn't working. I'd say Waterford will be favourites for this one but I wouldn't be surprised either if Tipp nicked it. I can see us sitting deep to defend against Waterford trying to run through the lines. If we let them run through like the league game their speed will kill us.
God knows to be honest I have had a season ticket since 2012 so you just took your ticket for granted
Yeah the 6000 attendance is a killer
Why was the 7000 touted earlier in the week?
Think it's the same as your end nothing to be had
any spare tickets for the game Saturday let me know please
I wonder if Sheedy is considering anything like this or will he stay conservative:
C BARRETT Pauric Maher Kennedy
Dan McC
A Flynn Ronan Maher B Heff
Paddy Cadell Willie Connors
Jake Morris Breen
Bubbles
Jason Forde Mark Kehoe
OR
Paddy Cadell Dan McC
Jake Morris Breen Mark Kehoe
Jason Forde Seamus Callanan
John Devane might not make the intercounty grade as a manager based on the last two seasons. Some of the positioning and selections...
I think Woodlock picked a very young minor squad/team with an eye on growth/development. He's getting it in the ear now for that decision. Had a number of 15-year-olds in there.
I think something like 16 of the squad are under age again next year. I think the view in some quarters is, you have more of a chance to develop players and gel a team over a two-year period- exposing them to bigger players, losses, and hopefully they'll respond into a stronger team the following year - giving them a longer apprenticeship rather than producing winning teams.
Time will tell.
If it's any consolation have a look on the kilkenny thread.. lads on their have the exact same complaints re underage structure..strength and conditioning...stone age tactics
On the subject of our underage teams - it always strikes me (with the exception of the U20/U21 with Cahill) that we tactically seem behind other teams e.g running into space for puckouts vs crowding under a high dropping ball. From our U20 this year I'd argue there was plenty of ability in the team but they looked poor tactically vs Waterford and Cork.
would you stop. I will never shout for anyone but tipp. I hope they win the all Ireland and I am man enough to admit being wrong if they do
there is nothing wrong with calling out poor decisions by sheedy for example The Munster final loss lies fully with sheedy as how he stood and watched the second half unfold without making changes is truly bizarre.
and Waterford are favourites, they go in after trouncing Galway, we go in after being demolished by Limerick in 35 minutes. if tipp are favourites then surely we are also favourites to make the final with Limerick.
time will tell but just remember no excuses on Saturday evening
How's tickets looking from the Tipp side?
Seems club allocation in Waterford sold out in mins. Raging as I was at the last 2 qualifers
Do you ever take a day off with that absolute cack?
Almost salivating at the prospect of Cahill beating Tipperary for some mental reason. Supporting one man over your county is absolutely bizarre.
Cahill can have no complaints that he didn't get the job in 2019 given that the man that was appointed won an All Ireland.
Waterford are not favourites but you keep living in the Cahill-obsessed fantasy land you've created.
my point is gaa year on year goes more and more professional. Going back to Kerry in the 70s and 80s and even Tipps ending of the famine was done mainly through injection of a lot of money, people don’t like to admit that though
in all professional sports it’s the wealthiest that ultimately win
My point is simple. hurling is now a game where strength and conditioning and speed are more important then skill - sure sign of professionalism. Hurling is now more physical then it ever has been
Tipp don’t have the money to fund both codes fully , that’s the reality and as long as we do so we will continue to underperform underage in both.
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Premier Plan: Towards 2020
Coaching and Games Development There are currently five people working full-time in Coaching and Games Development in Tipperary. The role of the GDA has changed considerably in recent times and there must be a realisation and acceptance that this role will change even further as Tipperary GAA continues to evolve, change and be proactive in tackling the many challenges facing our organisation. The original employee worked mainly as a Primary School Coach. While this is still an important part of his work schedule, the duties have broadened considerably to the extent that the modern GDA is now very much an organiser, coordinator and educator, as well as a coach. Flexibility and mobility is very important as the GDA continues to support the large volunteer sector working on the ground. While most of the employee’s work is within their allocated area, at times they are required to assist with county/provincial events and activities. With Croke Park, Munster GAA and County Board investing heavily in this area, it is vitally important that a thoroughly professional approach is taken by all concerned, thus ensuring the best possible product is delivered. The quality of delivery by the GDAs is vital to the success of all programmes. The GDA’s work can be categorised under one or more of the following National Key Areas: 1. Games Opportunities (Child) 2. Games Opportunities (Youth) 3. School Initiatives 4. Camps 5. Talent Academies 6. Learning & Development GDA’s Main Area of Work Within the above key areas the following are the areas of responsibility to be covered by the GDA during the year. Club Development (Admin & Planning) Primary Schools Post Primary Schools Academies Camp Programme Go Games Blitzes/Leagues Super Games Centres Intra/Inter/Fixed and Open Premier Plan: Towards 2020 10 Skills Tests Adult Club Development Coach and Referee Education Planning and Reporting (MIS & TMS) Promotion & Publicity Games Development Administrators’ Allocated Regions GDA Allocated Area Contact Andy Ryan Mid Tipperary + Killenaule, Ballinahinch, Newport and Sean Treacys 087-9090985 andy.ryan.gda.tipperary@gaa.ie Paudie Malone North Tipperary 087-9698153 paudie.malone.gda.tipperary@gaa.ie Kevin Halley West Tipperary + Cahir, Fethard and Clerihan 086-1925188 kevin.halley.gda.tipperary@gaa.ie Colm Canning South Tipperary 083-1243725 colm.canning.gda.tipperary@gaa.ie In the 2010-2015 County Strategic Plan, a wide range of activities was included. Many of these have now been subsumed into the operational side of coaching and games development. Examples would be “Go Games” and “Camps” which are now central to our operation. For the 2018-2020 plan we are concentrating mainly on two areas: Resources/Manpower and Youth Player Development. As the work load increases, the demand on the GDAs has grown hugely. Currently, staff is at maximum in terms of workload. In spite of efforts to streamline and organise work around the key project areas it is still proving very difficult to avoid the fire-fighting effect that the workload always seems to throw up. While the staff is completely committed to their roles the danger with this type of pressure is that standards might drop and quality of work produced is not up to the mark. In this plan, changes are suggested to the running of the Primary School coaching scheme and how it operates. Also suggested is the employment of extra full time and part time personnel. We feel this is necessary to keep standards up and to cater for all programmes across the key areas. A significant drop out (58%) occurs from 13 to 21 years of age. While there are a number of factors causing this, lack of perceived ability, loss of interest, lack of game time to mention a few, we must try to avert some of the drop out. Recent surveys tell us that games and the availability of playing opportunity is a major factor in players giving up. In the plan we propose to implement strategies, through the provision of extra games opportunities, to alleviate some, if not all, of the fall off in playing numbers. Premier Plan: Towards 2020 11 Findings in the Strategic Plan Survey, from a games development point of view, provided vital information: 90% of clubs have a coach in their Primary Schools 70% of clubs provide other resources to the Primary Schools. 60% of clubs provide no assistance to the Post Primary sector. Over 80% of clubs appoint their officers at the AGM while mentors and selectors are appointed in the same manner in 50% of clubs. Officers select team mentors in 40% of clubs. There is a very obvious lack of real connect between the juvenile club and the adult club. When asked what number of games per year would be considered adequate for juvenile players, all clubs agreed that 14 would be the minimum number required for each age group. 55% of clubs agreed that the club minor age should revert to 17 in line with county and that each subsequent age should drop one year. Over 95% of clubs run coaching courses and other coach education events each year. This is very healthy from a games development point of view. Objective: Increase participation and improve playing standards. Action Responsibility Timescale Outcome Primary Schools: Primary School Coaching Recording System Restructuring of Primary School Coaching Scheme GAA ‘Get Fit 4 Fun’ Programme / 5 Star Centres GM/GDA/CGC GM/GDA/CGC Co. Comm. GM/GDA/CGC Sept 2017 /Jan 2018 Jan 2018 /Dec 2020 Sept 2018 /Dec 2020 Electronically based recording and monitoring system to streamline and manage reporting of coaching scheme Consolidate scheme by employing full-time coaches on a part-time basis in schools. Child Physical Competence through Gaelic Games Post Primary Schools: GAA Post Primary Support Groups Post Primary “Football Development” Project Restructure U14 Football Blitz (Rockwell) GM/GDA/CGC Co. Comm GM/GDA/CGC Football Comm GM/GDA/CGC Jan 2018/Dec 2020 March/April 2018 May 2018 Code specific Support Groups in Post Primary School in the County. Promotion and develop standard of Gaelic Football at Youth level. More beneficial series of competitive games for the age bracket. Premier Plan: Towards 2020 12 Post Primary School Transition Year Programme. GM/GDA Sept 2018 Qualify this cohort of students to assist with GAA Development in schools and clubs Fixtures Planning: Designated day per age group Integrate Munster and County CGD Fixtures into Div/County Fixtures Co./Div CCC/ Co. Comm Co./Div CCC/ Co. Comm/ GM/GDA March 2018 March 2018 Smoother running of our championships across each age group To allow clubs the opportunity to participate in all available competitions/blitzes Games Opportunities: Child Premier Go Games Club Blitz Programme Premier Go Games School Blitz Programme Winter Games Programme U11 Premier Leagues GDA/Volunteer Army GDA/ Teachers/TY Students GM/GDA/ Clubs GM/GDA/CGC Annually March to October Annually Sept to June Annually November/Feb March/October Two blitz opportunities in each club for each age group per month. Provide extra appropriate games opportunities to compliment Cumman na mBunscoil. Offer games opportunities to clubs during Winter months. 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Additional games for youth players in each division Players at youth level will receive a cluster of meaningful games Premier Plan: Towards 2020 13 Camps Implement a Youth Camp Programme Consolidate Easter/Summer Camps GM/GDA GM/GDA Jan 2018 Jan 2018 Extend camp opportunities to youth players Maintain current club and participant numbers Coach Education Club Coach Pathway Club Coaching Community of Learning Club Youth Coach Knowledge Transfer Group Annual County Coaching Seminar GM/GDA GM/GDA GM/GDA/ Tutors GM/GDA Jan 2018-Dec 2020 Jan 2018 Feb 2018 Annually Feb Coaches will have come through a systematic coach education programme in their club Knowledge transfer between coaches in the club Knowledge transfer between coaches county based Up skill and educate coaches on specific topics Academy 3 rd level student placement Appoint Recruitment officers in both codes Rookie Squad GM/GDA/ CGD/LIT GM/GDA/Co. Comm GM/GDA/Co. Comm Jan 2018 Oct 2017 To formally introduce an LIT student placement initiative to complement development in the areas of Academy, Primary, Post Primary and Coach level. Appointment of top quality mentors/coaches to Academy squads Provide development pathway for non county U21 players Club Development Player/Coach/ Club Officer Pathway Club 2020 Youth Coach Development Annual Club Workshop/Seminar Programme GM/GDA/Co Dev Comm/Co. Comm. GM/GDA/Co Dev Comm/Co. Comm GM/GDA/Co Dev Jan 2018 Jan 2018 Jan 2018 Clear avenue for development of the three strands Through a proper club/youth coach philosophy lead to a reduction in the fall off at youth level Dedicated series of workshops/seminars aimed at specific coach//player groups to further compliment the coach education programme.
When you say recognise the game is pro in all but name what exactly dom you mean by that?
Is it really strength and conditioning thats the issue or is it more and who are these coaches that you would be getting in and how would you be developing these coaches as well? You need to be getting the coaches in the clubs and the schools to be better if you really want improvements at inter county and that means more coaching courses, coaching meet ups etc.
My point was Woodlock can turn it around. People have to start somewhere.
I don't see how what you're saying is relevant to my post.
I get your a Liam Cahill supporter, waiting for Tipp to lose so Liam Cahill can get the job. You don't have to keep banging the drum. You've been on here before. Same story.
And what did Liam say was holding back tipp hurling
anyone who knows Liam Cahill knows he is a true hurling man who wants tipp to be the power house they could be
cahill was very disheartened he did not get the gig in 2019 . Expect Waterford players to bring his resentment and anger into Saturdays game
they are favourites and I think they will beat us and give Limerick enough of it too in the final
first recognise the game is professional in all but name
then from under 14 work on getting the best players the very best strength and conditioning and coaching that money will buy
have no doubt Limerick cork Galway and Kilkenny are Doing that
yet again tipp always seem behind the curve
Liam Cahill's results as the manager of the minor team in his first year:
Limerick 3-17 - 2-11 Tipperary
Clare 1-23 - 0-12 Tipperary
