Seems like the bar staff of the temple bar assaulted two teenagers Monday night. Kicking them in the head and using a ashtray as a weapon. After this incisdent and the blatant disregard the temple bar had for the rules at the start of the pandemic. Is it time that the temple bar's trading license is revoked ala Berlin's?
Video of assault: https://www.instagram.com/p/CR59UVtj4oW/?utm_medium=copy_link
Some, not all , teenagers these days have no fear. Gangs are everywhere, whether its skateboards, electric bikes, mopeds, these little scrotes have no fear and terrorise people for kicks. Id wager thats what started this incident and Id also wager they got what was coming to them.
You reap what you sow, you act the hardman and someone is eventually gonna put you in your place.
How did you pick that out of what I said? I would genuinely like to know so I can avoid making the same mistake in the future.
I disagree. Its their own fault for starting it.
Yes the bouncers over reacted but there would be no overreaction if they werent acting the goat to begin with. If a 13 year old is squaring up to someone at 13, hes probably going to be a bigger scummer could adulthood.
Edit: Maybe I shouldnt give so much detail.
These little scrotes have been terrorizing people in temple bar for months now and getting away with it.
Many times in the last few month staff from other establishments have had to come and run the scrotes from intimidating people at other places.
This particular incident started somewhere else and then moved over to the pub.
Not surprised someone finally snapped.
A skateboard is a shite deadly weapon, and the only time it would knock your teeth out is if you fell off one!
Its not like swinging a baseball bat, its got a poor weight distribution, and is too heavy to get a proper swing with it without it drooping at the far end. Even look at the video you see the skateboarded holding the board infront with two hands staggered, it would do feck all if it hit you.
An ashtray being thrown at you at speed is far more dangerous than a swing of a skateboard. And there is no excuse for kicking someone when theyre already pinned down by 2 full grown men. Pathetic is what it is.
If there was an assault or attempted assault by the teens then the doormen are well within their rights to perform a citizens arrest. These doormen know they are on camera so I am guessing their actions were thought out. A skateboard to the head from a 13 year old can leave you with lost teeth and needing surgery. Even if they did act correctly they could be in a spot of bother firstly with the guards who are not always on the side of security staff and also with the venue which could hang them out to dry. I've seen venues hang doorstaff out to dry for letting underage people in despite pressuring the door staff to do it for example. Security company could also just blame it on bad security even if it was by the book. If you just pin it on a rogue doorman it all goes away. Can't be an enticing job these days in the age of social media justice. You just can't win no matter what and the scummy doormen in the job just give it a bad name. A lot of guys with big egos get into it. Generally though I would say doormen try to avoid confrontations so I think they were probably justified but maybe it won't matter and they get the short end of the stick.
Folks, look at some of the sisters comments on social media and stop going on about middle class.
I'm working class and there's not a hope in hell my sister would be all over social media using such language or commenting using towny shorthand trashy words.
Matter of fact, if it were a member of my family in the video, we wouldn't be all over social media crying for 'big claim' attention.
Stop giving these parasites more ammunition to get a cash windfall
What sh*t are you babbling? I don't 'view' the world in any particular way.
Bouncers in Ireland were subjected to an overhaul and had to undergo new regulations and licensing because there were so many scumbags. Roll on a few years and they have managed to sidestep and find away around following those rules to the letter, actually far from following them to the letter. My job takes me into places all over Ireland, and in Dublin (and many other places) the barstaff and doorstaff often take pride in telling stories about them getting some drunk fool aside and giving them a hiding. They have plenty of other seedy practices too, but not the place.
Teens are teens the world over, and will be cheeky, and will goad and will push buttons. Door staff would be bigger than the average man, and should be able to handle themselves better. a heap of them scrapping in the street with teenagers and dragging one of them into the pub is indefensible, shows a lack of professionalism and is scumbag behaviour.
They should be sacked and never be allowed to work in the industry again, but that won't happen. They should at the very least be marked for future employers that may have kids hanging around their premises as a risk.
Mine also would have but that still doesn’t mean it was the kids fault. It’s still no reason a 13 year old should be bet around even if he’s a cheeky ****. An adult should know better. Go inside your premises and let security deal with it. That’s what they are trained to do and what are paid for. Instead it looks like barmen in their 30 or 40’s came out for a nice game of slaps.
Can you point out where I stated that? I've said in my experience & also that I'm sure there's a few but they're in the minority. Don't misconstrue or misrepresent what I said please.
Thats true. You cant be kicking lads on the ground, no matter what the age.
I just have zero sympathy for the kids, they bit off more than they could chew.
There’s no possible way of telling if someone is spitting. But what Is obvious to see is the adult throwing the first punch.
Teenagers shouldn't be hanging around Temple Bar after 9. My Mam would bait me if I was hanging around there, asking for smokes and squaring uo to bouncers. Shed bait me for starting it.
Detaining a minor is an extremely tricky process, can and often does end up with legal action if the precise process isn't followed.
It's also going to be a hell of a lot worse when that kid has been beaten quite a bit.
That should have been 9. My mistake.
Apparently they were spitting at the staff and threatening to hit them with skateboards.
Even in one of those videos you can see one of them spitting before it kicks off.
Now while bouncers get away with far too much, if some toerag was spitting at me these days I think I might react in ways unbecoming.
But not every skater is nice. It just takes a few. Same why not all folk from Tallaght are on the dole or all males in Ballymun are drug addicts.
The lads in question are skaters and they are clearly squaring up to the bouncers and using their skateboards as weapons. While all skaters arent scum, these lads appear to be scrotes.
Dark at 6pm in July.
Give your head a wobble
Skateboard community? If they were on bikes would the bike community have turned up to protest?
There’s dickheads in all gangs
canada goose are all dickheads though. That’s the difference.
So no scumbag owns a skateboard...great news.
No, despite having met and interacting with hundreds of them in the last year, I've never met one that's not nice. I'm sure there are a couple of them but it would be very much the minority & still doesn't excuse grown men who are allegedly professionals in their industry assaulting children.
What a bad day for the security guard. Never should do that to a Child. Though it's bound to happen when the dumbest violent prone people are attracted to the job.
You mean when it’s dark out? Like how it gets dark at 9pm?
The difference in opinion between south William street and this incident? Are you from ireland?
south William street incident:
bar staff aged 20-25 vs Canada goose aged 17 - 20 using broken bottles
temple bar incident:
bouncers and bar staff
-age 30 - 50
vs
skareboarders
age 13- 16
Come on now don’t play ignorant here.
So scummers can't be skaters?
Right.
Thinking that because they have a skateboard they must be nice people...lol
Ignoring threats of criminal damage, assault and death on social media from the same 'community' of 'nice polite lads'
Ah here now, it's not as if these kids came at them branding a machete. The bouncer is a fully grown man and clearly bigger than the kid. You disarm or restrain the kid easily enough.
Dragging them inside the premises is illegal, under unlawful detention/false imprisonment. PSA licence holders are fully trained on how detaining someone goes and the process involved, and I'll tell you right now that dragging them into a place is not on the allowed list, especially when that person is a minor.
They literally beat those kids. I have a 12 year old son and of course I've met all of his friends around his age, I could not imagine any real situation that would cause me to want to do the kind of damage to those kids that those men caused.
And a lot of scumbag teenagers roaming the streets of Dublin at night time too
He doesn’t have a lot to learn about door staff in Dublin. There are a massive amount of scumbags working on doors in the city.
You’ve a lot to learn about life if that is how you view the world