blackeagle wrote: » Hi got an email this morning basically offering 6 month fixed contract for 10 position may turning to permanent if positions arise during the lifetime of panel. Anyone else got same? And what do yous think about it? Thanks
Tanyatf44 wrote: » Got 1 too. Dont think i could leave a permanent post for something that is only a temporary post that might lead to permanent position.
2006 wrote: » I was offered a position early this week but I refused it and asked them to withdraw my application as iv since got another job. I also know of 2 people who received the same offer and also refused the position
blackeagle wrote: Hi do you mind me asking was the offer a 6 month fixed term or full time permanent?
2006 wrote: » There was no mention of a 6 month offer. Just said they had received a request from the dept of justice for another immigration control officer and they reached my name in order of merit
blackeagle wrote: This is interesting. If they didn't mention the term I assume that it was the original panel which was permanent position .
2006 wrote: » I have copied and pasted the email below  I have received a request for an Immigration Control Officer with the Department of Justice in Dublin Airport.  I have reached your name or the Order of Merit and attach documents in relation to this vacancy.  I would be grateful if you would return the completed documents by Close of Business Tuesday 22 June 2021 please. Â
blackeagle wrote: Yeah my understanding is this is the job offer for the position we all previously applied and put panel for which was full time permanent. I been told I'm on the panel early 30s and if they reach my number I be contacted but instead of that I just got a email for if I interested I can apply for 6 month fixed term while waiting on the panel for full time.
2006 wrote: » I was early 40's on the panel so I'd imagine you will get the full time offer soon enough as you weren't far behind me in order of merit
blackeagle wrote: I remember I contacted them after the positions being filled they told me I'm down to 34 on the list which was moving quick enough then covid happened. Tbh I'm bit hesitant now after all these things even if I get permanent offer. I have full time permanent job last 11 years so it will be risky move for me even I really like the idea working as ICO.
blackeagle wrote: » I remember I contacted them after the positions being filled they told me I'm down to 34 on the list which was moving quick enough then covid happened. Tbh I'm bit hesitant now after all these things even if I get permanent offer. I have full time permanent job last 11 years so it will be risky move for me even I really like the idea working as ICO.
Deleted User wrote: » Although there is some risk of not being kept on I'd still jump at it. Basically no new ICO's taken on over last 2 years, crying out for bodies there over the summer, everything is going to pick up in the next couple of months so there is definitely going to be permanent positions.
job seeker wrote: » I'd literally sell my soul to the devil himself for this offer!! (I'm way down the OOM though!)
Finally they got back to me for permanent position. I'm going for it.
You are right to take the permanent position but use it as a stepping stone into get into other areas of the Civil Service. You are not treated the same in this area as you would be in other departments. Apparently a lot of people are applying to get out and move to other areas; it is not a happy place to work in
Does anyone has an experience dealing with pay grade? I mean is it strict by public job pay scale ? I have over 10 years health care service experience but not with HSE. it is private company I'm working for. So do yous think I can discuss pay scale if I accept the post? Thanks
Private sector experience is never considered for civil service jobs. With a couple of exceptions - solicitor, barrister for some legal roles in the civil service
Interesting! An expression of interest was sent around to my unit, I personally didn’t want to work the shifts. However, nothing was mentioned about being able to leave early. Is HR cooking the clocks out there???
Interesting role for sure, the rest is absolute nonsense!
You have to work your full shifts. The job is no longer interesting and has never been handy; management have made sure of that.
I wouldn't say the job is no longer interesting but each to their own.
Yup, at the moment feels like they doing everything in their power to push staff out. But keeping their amigos looked after and have them stay. Awful atmosphere out there, considering how many COs stepped up to do work not even related to immigration. But hey ho its all aload of ballocks. At the end of the day your only a number.
There isn’t a HR unit out there. There is a PO in town but she doesn’t care about staff or their mental health. Normally covers stuff up then fix the problem. There is no clock either. What’s being referred to there is local arrangements. AKA for a CO not been provided with scheduled breaks and you get let go in lieu of that. For certain COs, EOs, the new HEO grade (who work less contracted hours then everyone else but still get full allowances) the entire back office and the AP they may as well job share. These arrangements are used as a threat by management. As they know without them the BMU would fall apart. Which at the moment it is. They even bringing out old staff on better conditions. Less hours same shift and allowance payments. To make sure they have cover in case of walkouts and resignations. Job is unbearable. Good thing you opted not to take it.
Why don't you leave?
There is a total disregard and lack of empathy for the staff out there. No other Dept treats staff so badly . Until the attitude towards staff changes, there will always be a negative and demotivated staff
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