Following on from
this thread
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You are the one that said the explanation from the dictionary doesn't mention varadkar so you are dismissing it. Talk about arrogance and stretching. All I can see is you twisting yourself into knots trying to excuse varadkars behaviour. Have to admire your blind loyalty, reminds of my old dog and how loyal he was.
The lads are reduced to memes and gifs.
Thou must not use ordinary descriptive terms when discussing FG!.
Des O'Malley, who has sadly died, is being elevated to political statesmanship atm (turfed out of FF and vilified by FG). It's how the power swap circles the wagons. The lads are doing their bit for Varadkar here.
No I said,it's an opinion
There are 100's of 1000's of words in any dictionary for use with that opinion
One which I will not reaffirm for any of you because its not my opinion
How can a law be physical? Spouting nonsense to be fair.
You were dragged over the coals on this one, and yet you still bang on about it. Effort doesn't make up for the fact that you are wrong.
A poster called Maryishere used to do this too. Claim that somebody was being 'dragged over the coals' at a certain point in a debate.
Typically when someone didn't want to answer simple questions.
I was challenged when I said Varadkar was corrupt in what he did - I explained why I believed that and I asked a simple question of the posters who challenged me. They all ran away for the meme/gif drawer or the invective press.
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Ah no Francie, that's not what you did
You looked for reaffirmation from people who don't share your opinions rehashed
Thats pointless
You started this crack the other day when the Cuba stuff was getting a bit hot
Coincidentally of course ...
You are such a liar who will stoop to anything to avoid answering simple questions. YOU started this 'crack' by claiming you didn't think Varadkar was 'corrupt'.
You still haven't answered any questions about that assertion and have resorted to memes and gifs...and lies.
Nonsense
What "baseless allegations"? Varadkar did leak a confidential document to his friend. varadkar is under criminal investigation. We know he leaked. Where is the "baseless allegation"? You seem to be attacking fact with generic waffle.
Corruption
He meets the dictionary definition.
He is corrupt. He is in a position of power. He leaked a confidential document to a friend. It's clear he did it to try keep favour with the now defunct union members. Even if you don't believe that, the reason is irrelevant.
corruption
nounUK /kəˈrʌp.ʃən/ US /kəˈrʌp.ʃən/
C1
illegal, bad, or dishonest behaviour, especially by people in positions of power
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/corruption
Definition of corruption
1a: dishonest or illegal behavior especially by powerful people (such as government officials or police officers) : DEPRAVITY
b: inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (such as bribery)
the corruption of government officials
Judging by recent reports on numerous FF/FG councillors padding their expenses and charging expenses for trips they never took, it seems to be the FF/FG environment.
Not only have you lied, you've been caught lying. Here is the start of my involvement in this - asking you a question about your claim.
Back to your opinion again,I see
As I said baseless, in my opinion
Rubbish
You started your tete a tete with me on this matter around the time the Cuba issue was getting hot in the SF thread
You can baselessly accuse me of lies or bold any number of baseless accusations as much as you want
Fact of the matter is Cuba was being brought up on that same day July 15th un comfortably for you in the SF thread
On that basis I deduced your starting the latest long rehash of your baseless corruption claims wasn't coincidence
But hey ho like Tom Jones says it's not unusual (as a tactic)
Wow...what a stretch this is. What desperation.
I think I'll leave that quite fabulous turn of events to speak for themselves. Your devotion is truly weird as somebody said earlier.
I'm sure that 'somebody' will appreciate the reaffirmation you gave them there
Quid pro Quo Starling
Quid pro quo
I don't need that, I'm quite happy with my opinion
Looking for and and getting like minded reaffirmation for opinion doesn't a fact make
Your contention here (hilarious) is that I prompted you to make a claim so that I could deflect from an entirely different thread where I never failed to answer a question and where I am still posting.
You are 'welcome' to that opinion alright Marine! 😀
That's actually not my contention at all
But you know that
I have noticed (long ago), and the above is an example, a posting strategy of obfuscation referencing something not meant at all, prompting several replies(the more the merrier) until the uncomfortable points being avoided lie several pages back
To each their own, its not changing any opinions
You've been caught out avoiding a simple question, and now lying about how this conversation started (which was directly from a claim you made) and still refuse to debate.
We've had memes gifs, lies and now a complete pivot to something else along the way.
Gold.
If it is 'nonsense' where is your answer to this question:
What do you call it when somebody abuses the power and the trust vested in them to such an extent that they have to to apologise for it in the Dáil?
Will we get a meme, a gif or a pivot as a reply? Place your bets folks.
I answered that earlier,in short and in detail
I called it your opinion
Others of your set here will gladly reaffirm it for you
I won't
No need to be angry about different opinions,it's life
You didn't explain why you believed that Varadkar was corrupt, you stated that it was a fact that Varadkar was corrupt. You are entitled to hold the belief or opinion that Varadkar was corrupt, but just like flat-earthers and anti-vaxxers, holding a ridiculous belief or opinion can make you a figure of fun (hence the gifs and memes).
Where I have an issue is with your tendency to think that your opinions are fact. It is a level of self-delusion that is dangerous to yourself and others.
Hmmmm, I'd say that is yet another porky as I didn't see an answer. You can prove me wrong by telling me what you call:
...it when somebody abuses the power and the trust vested in them to such an extent that they have to to apologise for it in the Dáil?
None of that is an 'opinion', it is factually what he did. I.E. Something he shouldn't have done(by his own admission) and had to apologise for and which is being assessed by the DPP after a Garda Criminal investigation on two points of law.
He is corrupt quite simply because he abused the power and the trust vested in him to such an extent that he had to apologise for it in the Dáil.
There is no doubt that he leaked the document which is an abuse of power and trust and therefore corrupt and the Gardai are investigating and the DPP will decide if he is criminally corrupt.
How many times do I need to state this?
The way ffg and their support carry on about this always reminds of this quote
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
Lol go back and look again
Don't be lazy
You got 2 answers to your repetitive opinion today
Both of which you ignored probably because you wanted to keep repeating your baseless allegations
All in the wrong thread and all with nothing new to show
Your perogative
Mine seems to be calling you out on that or leave you to talk amongst yourselves
Lucky dip which you get really
No,I got pivots,memesgifs.
No answer to what you call an 'abuse of power and trust'. Hint: it does not involve turning it back on me. It's a simple question.
Whenever you are ready to give me an answer to that, let me know.
I'm not responsible for your opinion (as cracky pot as I think it is)
I'm not responsible for reaffirming it for you either
Remember that
No amount of angry thread retorts or misrepresentation in this democracy is going to change that
Was what Leo did an abuse of power and trust?
Time for you to give 'Your' opinion now.
What'll we get on the Spinning Wheel of Evasion this time...a meme? a gif?....or will the FG dictionary of terms be whipped out?