Tis a reasonable enough analogy. To further borrow from it, the problem with the discussions ongoing in this thread is that one group keep saying that the current car is breaking down too often and we should talk with the garage about replacing it, one group not so convinced we need a new car keep asking for the price before we know the make, model, year and spec we're going to look at (before even knowing what the dealership has in stock), and an even smaller group are at pains to point out how expensive the brand new high spec Mercedes is and pretend that's the only car the dealership has for sale.
Further convinced that the British have found a way to finally get out of NI (the GFA was the first attempt IMO - a tacit withdrawal and an admission that being here is ultimately wrong)
The are slowly pushing NI Unionists away and making them believe it is they themselves that are changing. Perfidious Albion in extremis.
By repudiating the Protocol as Frost has signalled, they are now going to push things to the only solution to the Brexit conundrum created ultimately by partition = a border poll.
So you want to replace the status quo with ... nothing?
It seems you are using the term liberalism to describe anything and everything.
Except im not,but whatever makes sense
Its a failed idology,hasnt worked,isnt ever going to work and has wreaked the planet....why bother to pretend it ever will work??.
Wee bit partition really when you comtemplate it
What are you on about? Genuinely, what nonsense is this?
Are you talking about Liberalism, neoliberalism, capitalism, globalism, socialism?
You come across as very confused.
Mate....look about,its a failure.....it hasnt worked,a utd ireland is a chance for new way of doing things
Slightly off topic,but capitalism is what it is like with very powerful propaganda,evidemced in fact,the majority of those identifying as capitalists,rarely actually own any capital🤣🥳
So too expand on this..... There is zero evidence that a UI will be the utopia some people think. Unions not accepting seismic changes to work structures, increased taxes, Unionist backlash, hard line Nationalists thinking its not 'Irish' enough. All these are unknown elements
Who says a UI will be a 'utopia'?
A UI will have all the challenges of any country. It will be real, but many believe it will be a better way of running this island.
Unless you think the island has been run to anywhere near it's potential up to now?
What exactly is 'it'.
Ireland having one of the highest living standards in the world is not a 'failure'.
Who says a UI would be a Utopia?
How about asking your mate Blazzz. We are forever hearing from the SF types about all the problems Ireland has at present. Yet, they also want to fix some of these via a UI.
I think the Republic over all has done well and ranks ok compared to other western countries. Failing to see how the addition of a basket case economy would be anything other than a hinderance to reaching its full potential.
This makes no sense to somebody approaching 60, who once voted for the power swap and who has become completely disillusioned by repetitive boom and bust, greed, abuses of power, resulting in everything from infant death to personal aggrandisement.
Get lost with the selective, 'I'm alright Jack' rubbish that 'overall we have done quite well'.
Mate...you cant paint people raising kids in hotel rooms,a healthcare that collaspes when few hundred extra people get sick at once,homeless levels spiralling out of control,home ownership gone beyond reach of majority population,a country that oversees and perpetuates direct provison,kids going to school hungry and an ethnic minrioty with one of lowest literacy and life expectancy in western world as a success🤣🤣🤣.......
.we must certainly have not a high standred of living,if we do and liberials want to rate it as such,its on backs of misery,and expense of vast swades of the population,whom are unlucky enough to be poor
Whole thing is farce,gdp rises here when nearly the entire econmy stut down...liberials have sold the world a lie as regards the importance of econmy to average person
No. We are currently not running to our full potential. But adding more problems to the list won't fix that will it?
What partition has cost us is a big part of why we haven't reached our potential.
ah right - not commissioned by SF then after all
costs cannot be predicted when we dont know what the prediction is. Im saying this one final time - maybe it might sink in:
We need to discuss what a UI looks like before we can have any idea of cost.
If SF don't agree with Scenario 3 in the Hubner report why are they promoting the predicted benefits of scenario 3?
Why are predictions on the benefits acceptable but not the costs?
Does that mean that SF as the incumbent government won't be able to realize our potential either ?
No evidence that a UI would solve any of your perceived problems.
Suitably vague as always to allow you to roll back.
Infant deaths, how does a UI solve whatever it is you are referring to?
Boom and Bust , how does a UI prevent this?
Not if we remain partitioned.
I, think, correct me if I am wrong, that would be one of the reasons they also want a UI.
Do you know what a 'scenario' is?
:a postulated sequence or development of events.
You don't need to agree or disagree to present 'scenarios'
Fair enough. I don't think they can either but for different reasons obviously.
Hilarious.
Doherty said we can afford a UI because it would generate 35bn in revenue. Doesn't sound like a neutral statement. Sounds like he agrees with the findings of Hubner.
Your thought process must be severely limited if you believe that the only solution to the Brexist conundrum is a border poll.
Will solve "Infant Death" apparently too.
Bit of an odd statement especially as he supports SF/IRA who murdered infants.
Sounds like he thinks we can afford it.
It's not the only one...it is in my opinion the one the British are driving the north to.
Yup by following scenario 3 in the Hubner. Otherwise it's not 35bn and he therefore has no idea if we can.
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