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[Deleted User]

Mod Note: OP clarified that the charge point was not stolen

On Saturday morning I woke up to this,

The spot where my Zappi used to be.

I have cctv footage of the thief who was in and out in less than 10minutes.

Guards have the footage but said its unlikely anything will come of it, probably stolen to order.

North county Dublin,

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eddhorse

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117645234#Comment_117645234

What model are they?

cannco253

If an electrician needs to certify the installation of the charger/EVSE to get the SEAI grant, do they need to know where the unit is coming from?

How do they know it's in working order and safe to install if it's a secondhand unit? If a secondhand Zappi caught fire who would be on the hook?

JimmyVik

There is a row of new houses built near me that all have EV chargers at the front.

3 of them were stolen in one night about a month ago.

Del2005

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117642866#Comment_117642866

There's feck all EVs and they are stealing the charge points already , is there still free installation?, so when we get up to the amount the government wants and no subsidiaries for charge points of course they will be stolen.

If the price of metal goes up they'll start cutting the charging cables off when in use.

Calahonda52

Tethered CP with unit in the house and cable through wall?

liamog

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641450#Comment_117641450

I'd be very surprised if we end up with a significant grey market for chargers which leads to theft becoming as common as @Buffman thinks

eddhorse

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117642106#Comment_117642106

Can still use it offline though

WattsUp

https://boards.ie/discussion/2058199521/stolen-charge-point

Maybe contact MyEnergi...If somebody ever connects it to a HUB they should know and the end user may have to hand it back even if they know nothing about it, apart from buying it from a dodgy guy on the internet!

martingriff

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117630953#Comment_117630953

Sorry for the robbery. Its not a surprise this day and age and I say its not the first time or the last. Can happen anywhere

[Deleted User]

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641316#Comment_117641316

Two to three years time the near new secondhand cars from the UK imported in to Ireland will be PHEVs, there will be huge demand for charge points even if they are over specified for the job of charging a PHEV.

Effects

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117641316#Comment_117641316

Yet people are stealing them. 🤔

liamog

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117637885#Comment_117637885

Catalytic convertors are stolen for the materials inside, there aren't many valuable materials in a charge point. I don't see there being a huge market for 2nd hand stolen charge points.

CathalDublin

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117640460#Comment_117640460

Funny enough the Garda I spoke with did mention something about Tesla but I just thought he didn’t know anything about EVs

[Deleted User]

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117638094#Comment_117638094

Yes of course I did?

I actually just spoke to a detective ,he asked me if it was a Tesla box and was surprised when I said no.

Apparently they are the most common ones to be taken as they as the most "flashy" looking .

I've never heard of it but I guess not everyone is on the internet telling people they got fleeced.

slave1

This was and remains inevitable, we called this out many times before, there's just a couple of screws, actually surprised it took the 10 minutes.

CCTV will be useless because of the inept Garda attitude in this country.

Tamperproof screws also a waste as you can pick up a full set of heads from likes of AliExpress for pittance.

I'm moving my charge point in next month or so and as I have access to the rear will be fitting via long bolts.

Sorry to hear OP

CathalDublin

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117640324#Comment_117640324

To find it

[Deleted User]

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117640182#Comment_117640182

Who does ?

Why would you want your house on a public map ?

eddhorse

Agreed, sure they drive around estates looking for this kind of thing.

Tazium

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117638382#Comment_117638382

The app doesn’t need visibility of a car in someone’s driveway. Can be used by anyone, from anywhere, to profile and target those homes displaying with a home charger.

Del2005

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117637559#Comment_117637559

The EV sitting in a driveway is a bigger giveaway then an app.

The Gardaí could most likely go out tomorrow and get the person who stole the OPs unit, the Gardaí now most of the thieves from running them through the system so often. The reason they don't is because they know that nothing will happen to the thief after they arrest them again.

CathalDublin

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117630953#Comment_117630953

Hi Mr Thompson, I live out this way too and I spoke with the local community Garda today who said there hasn’t been any reports of this in their locality, did you forget to report it?

[Deleted User]

moped muggers in the uk have no problems with putting holes in tanks of cars to keep their mopeds rolling. They really are human vermin.

Buffman

Sorry to see that OP, I hope your house insurance will cover it. This was the main reason I didn't put mine at the front door. Even with CCTV I didn't think it would be safe enough.

Some good suggestions about the tamper resistant screws, unfortunately I'd say the scumbags would still destroy the unit even if the didn't get away with it.

Someone mentioned catalytic converter theft. Unfortunately I think charger theft will become far more common as they become more numerous, especially on high end expensive units.

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117630700#Comment_117630700

It's part of the regulations that the isolation switch has to be there, if you get it done with the grant it has to be installed. I don't agree with them myself.

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117631755#Comment_117631755

Fuel theft is pretty common already, more so in large volumes like HGVs and heating oil tanks.

Tazium

PlugShare app allows you to add your home charger. I've not submitted so can't be sure of how that data is used but that could be another source of information for any thief. Map visible home chargers! Legalities aside, a video of the offender delivered to Guards should prompt some kind of a response beyond the shrug. Watch the usual apps for resale (adverts, done deal, ebay, gumtree etc.) and hope it pops up allowing you to inform the guards and proceed with recovery.

Don't suppose it's claimable on home insurance? No doubt the insurers will find a way to wriggle out from that. It's a horrible way to be left, hope you find some comfort.

turnfan

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117635600#Comment_117635600

I did this, unit in the garage, cable comes out under the door with a little notch.

liamog

Mod Note: This is not the place to discuss the legality of publishing video, deleted posts.

Del2005

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117634314#Comment_117634314

It'll stop the person taking it but you'll still need a new one, as they'll just destroy it if they can't get it.

Esel

Would it be possible to mount the charger to an indoor wall and run a lead to outside?

Lantus

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117634646#Comment_117634646

I was going to suggest that......

FishOnABike

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117635291#Comment_117635291

Good idea. Running wiring an for an anti tamper switch back into the house alarm shouldn't be too difficult either while the electrician is wiring the charge point.