Dun Laoghaire Traffic & Commuting Chat

Larbre34 wrote: »

The gains certainly don't justify the losses.

It hasn't been 24 hours yet.

Larbre34 wrote: »

It's just people walking on the street when there's plenty of room on the footpaths.

Be dismissive with daft comments if you like, but the fact remains that 5 bus routes aren't now serving the highest demand areas of the town, the shopping centres and hospital, disadvantaging the most mobility impaired.

The gains certainly don't justify the losses.

The buses stop outside the main shopping centre, adjacent to the start of the areas of highest demand in the town.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The buses stop outside the main shopping centre, adjacent to the start of the areas of highest demand in the town.

They do not. The 7 and 7A are now passing it as it diverts away from George's Street.

The 46A, 63 and 75 now U-turn at the Harbour roundabout and come back along Crofton Road, nowhere near the main shopping centre or George's Street.

Yakov P. Golyadkin wrote: »

It hasn't been 24 hours yet.

It's not something that needs to be measured over time

The buses served Lower George's Street, now they don't. They aren't there for the least mobile. It's an immediate loss.

Larbre34 wrote: »

They do not. The 7 and 7A are now passing it as it diverts away from George's Street.

The 46A, 63 and 75 now U-turn at the Harbour roundabout and come back along Crofton Road, nowhere near the main shopping centre or George's Street.

I was there half an hour ago. The bus in front of me turned right off George's St onto Marine Road, passing two entrances to the main shopping centre.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I was there half an hour ago. The bus in front of me turned right off George's St onto Marine Road, passing two entrances to the main shopping centre.

Yeah....the 7....... I literally just said that.

But neither it nor the others go down the main street towards Monkstown any more...

Gavin "shels"

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yeah....the 7....... I literally just said that.

But neither it nor the others go down the main street towards Monkstown any more...

So access to the main shopping centre and access to George's St by bus is sorted then.

Cookie_Monster

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Thoughts and prayers for Ann urgently please;

https://twitter.com/OConnorOisin/status/1410498025642938371

49km Naas to Sandycove, sounds like a lovely saturday morning cycle to me.

Larbre34 wrote: »

It's not something that needs to be measured over time

The buses served Lower George's Street, now they don't. They aren't there for the least mobile. It's an immediate loss.

And, there's an immediate gain too.

It's a trial, when the trial has ended all will be (re)considered and a decision arrived at.

It's not a trial, it's a load of pissing around with the lives of the older and less mobile. And the reason it's not a trial is because it has no metrics for success or failure.

There is a brand new square right there to provide the outdoor gathering space that is beneficial, without the need to take a good public transport service out of the heart of the town.

pm1977x

Gavin shels wrote: »

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

Casper and Giumbini’s does decent food and alcohol.

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

Olivetto at the Haddington hotel, Casper and Giumbinis (as mentioned already) or Hartley would be my three first choices.

Gareth Keenan

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

If you prefer a pub, the food in the Lighthouse on the newly pedestrianised Lower George St is great - burgers, pizzas.

p15574

Larbre34 wrote: »

The buses served Lower George's Street, now they don't. They aren't there for the least mobile. It's an immediate loss.

Yes, the elderly and disabled haven't been seen on Grafton St since 1982, when it was pedestrianised.

Thoughts and prayers

https://twitter.com/glutenfreeMark/status/1412315019547664385?s=19

Larbre34 wrote: »

It's not something that needs to be measured over time

The buses served Lower George's Street, now they don't. They aren't there for the least mobile. It's an immediate loss.

Trains used to go to Donegal and trams to Howth, now they don't. Life moves on. As I said before, if it works it works and if it doesn't it can be changed. Give it a chance!!

qb123

Mav11 wrote: »

Trains used to go to Donegal and trams to Howth, now they don't. Life moves on. As I said before, if it works it works and if it doesn't it can be changed. Give it a chance!!

They're two bad decisions to cite - both should have been retained. State sponsored vandalism in the dismantlement of the rail and tram network in this country.

qb123 wrote: »

They're two bad decisions to cite - both should have been retained. State sponsored vandalism in the dismantlement of the rail and tram network in this country.

Agreed on the rail network, but whether they should or should not have been retained is an argument for a different thread. Its a moot point in terms of life moving on and the pedestrianisation of Georges St..

BTW I'm not sure that I would 100% agree on the tram network point, LUAS?

scrumqueen

Gavin shels wrote: »

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

Hartleys, Casper & Giumbinis and Gourmet Food Parlour (more limited on booze side but there is alcohol available.)

Alternatively if you fancy a stretch of the legs, FXB in Monkstown.

Blut2

Larbre34 wrote: »

It's not something that needs to be measured over time

The buses served Lower George's Street, now they don't. They aren't there for the least mobile. It's an immediate loss.

Its highly unlikely anyone immobile enough to walk 200 metres down the street is getting the bus anyway. So as with the coast, the obvious solution is to turn all parking spots within say 100metres of Lower Georges St into disabled spots. Then anyone not mobile will be guaranteed easy access.

Obviously this will further slightly inconvenience normal drivers, but seeing as you're so concerned about the least mobile people this wouldn't be an issue right?

qb123

Mav11 wrote: »

Agreed on the rail network, but whether they should or should not have been retained is an argument for a different thread. Its a moot point in terms of life moving on and the pedestrianisation of Georges St..

BTW I'm not sure that I would 100% agree on the tram network point, LUAS?

Can't help but think that what was there would have been nicely complementary to other public transport services, and would have slowed down dominance of car.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_tramways

Homesick Alien

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

Hopefully this is a general DL thread... Going to be out in DL on Wednesday around midday/1pm and looking for some lunch with a pint. Any alternative suggestions aside from Wetherspoons?

The Lighthouse

p15574 wrote: »

Yes, the elderly and disabled haven't been seen on Grafton St since 1982, when it was pedestrianised.

If it was Grafton Street we are dealing with we'd have a tram at both end and I might almost agree with you.

But it's not, it's a local town built on the custom of its local people and their needs.

Larbre34 wrote: »

If it was Grafton Street we are dealing with we'd have a tram at both end and I might almost agree with you.

But it's not, it's a local town built on the custom of its local people and their needs.

it's a local town with a rail line at one end and extensive bus services built on the custom of its local people and their needs.

duploelabs

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

it's a local town with a rail line at one end and extensive bus services built on the custom of its local people and their needs.

Dun laoghaire is the third largest borough in ireland, not just a local town

Gareth Keenan wrote: »

If you prefer a pub, the food in the Lighthouse on the newly pedestrianised Lower George St is great - burgers, pizzas.

what?

they've pedestriansed George's Street?

no one mentioned it :pac:

fixXxer

Fine weather for outside dining there. Hope the tents stay up!

fixXxer wrote: »

Fine weather for outside dining there. Hope the tents stay up!

Nice to see somebody else exhibiting positivity when it’s needed.