[Deleted User] wrote: » Well my answer to that is 99% of the time I'm not reversing out into traffic because any time I park I make sure where possible I'm facing in a way I can drive straight out and not have to reverse out.
Sam the Sham wrote: » Who in our climate puts winter tyres on in the winter? I used to live in New England and, even there, very few people changed their tyres in winter.
Silent Running wrote: » So, when you're reversing out from between two tall vehicles, where you can't see if there's cross traffic, do you just blunder out hoping they'll avoid you? The camera is another driver aid. It can give a view from the rear of the car, and would have a view that you can't possibly have from the driver seat. The ID camera is particularly useful as you can select the ultra wide mode that shows cross traffic from both sides.
robbie_63 wrote: » Have you had a test drive of the 204bhp ID3,Family member has one and they find it very skittish in winter, they found it hard to control it on icy surfaces as the power was so instant. If you were buying a normal ICE Family car would you go for the 200bhp one ?
Deleted User wrote: » Ah yeah I can understand trucks needing cameras or vans
Silent Running wrote: » Did you misunderstand the points I made about not having sight through the windows or mirrors when reversing, in particular for cross traffic? For years I drove rear blind vehicles. (no rear windows or rear side glass) so I have no problems reversing using mirrors, but you can't see where you can't see. The camera can. Interesting that trucks and large vans are now routinely fitted with rear cameras.
Deleted User wrote: » It might be useful for someone who finds it difficult to reverse using Mirrors and Windows alright but the more People depend on cameras the less they're likely to look through the windows and I don't think that's a good thing. My side mirrors can see the sides of the cars and the sensors pick anything up lower down.
robbie_63 wrote: » I can't remember off hand what size tyres are on the ID3 but I don't think they are as wide as normal alloys so the grip profile is less than probably your Tesla.
hogan86 wrote: » I havent actually been able to drive one with work/kids/life never giving me much free time but I have a Tesla model 3 SR+ thats in and around 280bhp or so from memory and i have no issues and she seems to be fine too with that power. Id rather more power than less but most of my cars have been in and around that 200bhp or so and recently a golf gti and a range rover sport. I do get its very different and instant power delivery that most people would not be used to and in the wet/icy conditions it would catch you out.
hogan86 wrote: » I do get its very different and instant power delivery that most people would not be used to and in the wet/icy conditions it would catch you out.
Silent Running wrote: » The camera is very useful. It can be set to extra wide so that you can see pretty much both sides of the rear of the car. If you're reversing out of a driveway you can see the footpath both sides before the back wheels even touch it. Or if parked between two massive SUVs, you can see if there's a car about to cross behind you. You can't do that with windows, mirrors or sensors.
robbie_63 wrote: » Have you had a test drive of the 204bhp ID3, Family member has one and they find it very skittish in winter, they found it hard to control it on icy surfaces as the power was so instant. If you were buying a normal ICE Family car would you go for the 200bhp one ?
Deleted User wrote: » Who's paying for the car ? Camera is over rated in my opinion, I rely more on sensors, mirrors and observing my surroundings through the windows, no camera can cover all that so accurately and you can't react as quick by using a camera.
hogan86 wrote: » Take a guess who’s paying True, the sensors and mirrors are more than enough but you know what us greedy folk are like. She would like the ID4 just as its bigger and more boot space but the equivalent ID4 style is about €4k give or take more with smaller battery/less power at 145bhp and heavier over the ID3 204bhp so its a mixed bag. I dont want to make a mistake as its our first ever new car and i dont want to spend a fortune as I know we will eventually upgrade again and dont want regrets. I’ll call the dealer in the morning see what they say.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Who's paying for the car ? Camera is over rated in my opinion, I rely more on sensors, mirrors and observing my surroundings through the windows, no camera can cover all that so accurately and you can't react as quick by using a camera.
hogan86 wrote: » The camera would be the other nice upgrade but the parking sensors should be good enough. Showed the fearless leader the stonewashed blue and she doesnt like the colour, wants the Moonstone Grey so that it is. Hopefully there is an R version of some sort fown the line to trade against. Have looked at almost every single EV and the ID.3 just offers the best value and 0% pcp that no other EV I think is offering, even the ID.4 is 4.9%. Plus im getting a decent trade in one place i rang today said would give me €500 trade and another is €4,000 massive difference. If I dont just get something i will keep changing my mind.
[Deleted User] wrote: » For 900 extra the only real good thing for me would be the keyless entry. What's the other small extras ? Dual zone climate I don't care about.
Sam the Sham wrote: » What’s under the bonnet?
eagerv wrote: » My present car plus my last two had dual zone. I don't think I have ever needed to use..
Deleted User wrote: » For 900 extra the only real good thing for me would be the keyless entry. What's the other small extras ? Dual zone climate I don't care about.
Deleted User wrote: » Be a rebel and go with the blue, too many silver and grey cars on the road lol. Mine is stone washed blue haven't seen it in person yet. The only real difference is the keyless entry, I couldn't be with that now, the other stuff like Camera I'm not bothered with as long as I have parking sensors I always use the mirrors anyway.
hogan86 wrote: » Its herself that needs to be convinced and i know she wont care about any of that stuff, she actually prefers having a key to open the door rather than keyless - dont ask. I havent seen the stomewashed blue but I just like the moonstone grey as it has a nardo grey look to it aswell. My other issue is they have another style listed for €500 less than im getting it for and the original price I was offered. Then dealer said prices went up but from the new July pdf pricelist ot doesnt look like they have. Plus the stonewashed blue is a €700 optional extra so the Moonstone should be cheaper again.