ELM327 wrote: » In the best car in the field he should be comfortably ahead of all bar lewis and max. The fact that lando in a mclaren and a journeyman like Perez in his first year at RB are beating him or even close to to third is laughable. At this stage I wouldnt give Bottas a taxi let alone an F1 car
ELM327 wrote: » Even if it costs them the constructors? They clearly still have a better car than RB, except the RB being better suited to the RB Ring. With two competent drivers they should be able to beat RB - who arguably are only where they are because Max is outdriving the car. Much as I dislike lewis as a person you can't claim he's not a good driver, but Bottas is so below par that he'd struggle to get a williams seat on merit right now.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Whatever about Austria. What about Monaco, Baku and France, where RB also had a better car than Mercedes? RB is on 5 wins in a row at 4 circuits. Its not just Austria. Silverstone will be a big test. If RB is faster around Silverstone then I can't see where else it will be better then RB. If Mercedes can be faster in Silverstone then they have a chance of being faster in that type of power circuit, but the slower, high downforce tracks look to favour red bull.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » You think the Mercedes is the best car in the field? Like, you seriously think the red bull is less good than the Mercedes or are you just saying it for the sake of denigrating Bottas? The concensus is pretty clear in the last few races that the RB is slightly better than the Merc - except if making a point about how poor Bottas is.
Jordan 199 wrote: » Does anyone know if the British Grand Prix will be live on C4 this year?
AMKC wrote: » Yes it is live on C4 this year all of it. Am looking forward to watching it all. Hoping for good qualifying and race that weekend. Its the new format too. So it will be interesting to see how that works out.
quokula wrote: » In France Verstappen only barely scraped victory thanks to superior pit strategy and driving the wheels off the thing. It was reminiscent of Schumacher's win at Hungaroring in 1998 against the very dominant McLaren Mercedes of the day. Meanwhile Austria, Baku and Monaco are unusual tracks where we often see other drivers pull off upsets - in the entire hybrid era, Hamilton has just one win each in Austria and Baku, and two in Monaco. This is a pretty stark contrast to tracks that are more sensitive to car performance like Barcelona or Silverstone, where he has 6 and 7 wins respectively. In the early races on more representative tracks like Spain, whenever it was dry and in clean air the Mercedes was clearly the faster car. Bottas has generally been faster than Perez too on nearly every track, which is a strong indicator that Max is making the difference as you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who seriously thinks Bottas is as capable a driver as Perez based on what they've done prior to this season. I expect Mercedes to come back strongly in Silverstone as it's a major test of all round car performance and, like Spain, you rarely see anything other than the fastest car win on that circuit. If Red Bull do turn out to be competitive there then they're looking good.
ELM327 wrote: » DO you not remember the races before austria?? In france for instance Merc clearly had the better car. I do think the RB is not as good as the mercedes and Verstappen is outdriving the car. If RB win in the same dominating manner in Silverstone and another different stye of track perhaps then theres an argument to be made about the RB having reached parity with mercedes but I dont think that point could be made after 2 dominating wins at one track, a lucky bad strategy call in france, and a lucky late accident for lewis after an unlucky accident for max in baku.
muckwarrior wrote: » Personally, I think Bottas and Perez would be very closely matched in the same car. I don't really get why so many people seem to think Bottas is so terrible and Perez is so great. Bottas has beaten Hamilton fair and square over quite a few race weekends, something Perez has yet to achieve with Verstappen. Bottas is also generally closer to Hamilton than Perez is to Verstappen, although I'd rate Max as being a better driver than Hamilton recently, so I guess that puts their number twos roughly on a par.
ELM327 wrote: » Even if it costs them the constructors?They clearly still have a better car than RB, except the RB being better suited to the RB Ring. With two competent drivers they should be able to beat RB - who arguably are only where they are because Max is outdriving the car. Much as I dislike lewis as a person you can't claim he's not a good driver, but Bottas is so below par that he'd struggle to get a williams seat on merit right now.
“The car was on rails. On every tyre set we put on it was really enjoyable to drive. Pretty insane. I’m a bit amazed myself how today went. I didn’t expect it to be like this. Incredible job by everyone to deliver something like this.”
Debub wrote: » not sure if this is off topic but... I have an Android (Sony) telly, but cant find the ALL4 app on it (to watch FI on C4). I have to cast from my phone's app to the built in Chromecast on the telly. But, I am unable to cast the live program, only after its over - the live program I can only watch on the phone or tablet. Is there a way to watch the live program on C4 on the app on my TV? thanks
flazio wrote: » Live watching is UK only.
AMKC wrote: » What do you mean?
Harika wrote: » https://mobile.twitter.com/ausgrandprix/status/1412275229800292353 Australien GP 2021 cancelled
Jordan 199 wrote: » Cool. I think I will watch it on C4 that weekend, just for a break from the Sky coverage
flazio wrote: » Anyone for a double bill in Japan?
duploelabs wrote: » As much as I love Suzuka, vaccination roll out in Japan is truly woeful so I doubt they'll be going there any time soon
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Yes i remember the races before Austria. You say the mercedes was faster than red bull in france but max got pole by a quarter of a second in france. You think he did that in the slower car? Quarter of a second?If red bull are even equal with Mercedes or lose but it's close, then its in RB's favour. Mercedes has a few upgarded parts coming to the last few races but RB had had a solid stream of updates coming to each race. The red bull has improved more than the mercedes so Silverstone will be the test of where they stand in mercedes home territory where mercedes usually dominates. If its close in Silverstone and Rb dominate the high downforce circuits, how is mercedes still the best car?
ELM327 wrote: » If all those ifs ands and conditions happen then yes it's clear RB have the better car. Max got pole in france but did not have the race pace.
ELM327 wrote: » That's another "if" though. I know Murray always said IF is F1 spelled backwards, but when speaking about car and driver performance you can only look at actuality. Otherwise you're getting into the nonsense like the AWS graphics.
