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All Covid-19 measures are permanent, don't be a boiling frog!

brianhere

All social/population control measures introduced by the state security apparatus as a result of this health scare will be, and have always intended to be, permanent in my view. Here are a few reasons why:
a) Because they already have shown that they are stringing people along. The publicans, for example, have been assured every couple of weeks for the whole summer that they will be allowed to reopen, but the government had no intention of allowing this. First it was to stop the spread of the disease altogether, then it was 'flattening the curve' and now it is in response to an increase in cases which they know perfectly well had to follow an increase in testing. You don't want to be the donkey chasing the carrot here!

b) Because they have invested so much money and time in changing the whole apparatus of society, in schools for example, and other places. Clearly these changes were not implemented in order to disappear in only a few weeks, they show the planning and expense of permanent measures.

c) Because the state has a record of never releasing back to the population rights that they seized during some panic. A few examples:
i) During the hype about TB in the 1950s the state introduced a voluntary scheme to control the disease in cattle. It involved those who had tested negative for the disease to be given a special tag and the farmer a 'herd number'. This voluntary scheme then evolved into the state controlling all aspects of agricultural activity by only allowing any such activity - even keeping a few hens - with the permission of the state, via compulsory herd numbers.
ii) Similar to this current panic, in the 1970s the state amended earlier WWII legislation to enable it to abolish jury trials. This was a great shock to the legal profession - even to the then President - and affront to the time honoured legal practices in Ireland but it was rushed through on the basis of sunset clauses whereby it would have to be renewed every year, and hence was temporary. Of course it is still with us long after the troubles have ended.
iii) After 9/11 and some hyped episodes like 'underwear bombers', this state and all around the world introduced time consuming and very intrusive security procedures particularly at airports. This of course is still with us long after the scare has died down.

d) This last point I am sure some of you will not get, but I will make it anyway. These measures are being rolled out precisely because they have huge social and population control advantages for the state, hence they are only piggy backing on the virus to do what they have all along planned to do, and hence have no intention of ever releasing you in the future from their newly introduced grip.

So look if you want to get your life back you should join the demonstrations next Saturday at 2.00pm at the Customs House and the Dáil in Dublin. You will not get released from this vice otherwise, they will compel you to harm your own health via vaccines and masks (of course it harms your health by restricting your breathing, and harming your health does not help somebody else), and otherwise we will descend further into this nightmare of Communist style spying on neighbours and bullying people in the name of social conformity.

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Grofus wrote: »

Why does there need to be a conspiracy behind the restrictions, permanent or otherwise.
All the current restrictions are nothing to with COVID-19 and everything to do with control. So take your pick. Which one shall we debate?

Lol.
You're claiming that theres a secret plot to make restrictions (that you can't point out) permanent (for reasons you can't explain.)
But you're then saying that this isn't a conspiracy?

Are you claims that covid doesn't exist also part of this non conspiracy?
Your claims that the vaccine is dangerous and ineffective and being covered up by doctors also not a conspiracy?

Have you just abbandoned you claims of a depopulation plot entirely?

You don't seem to have a very coherent worldview...

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Grofus wrote: »

I can't provide evidence of the radio interview. I remember it was a woman from either Nphet or HSE around two weeks ago.
I can't prove it so I guess I'm lying

You can't even tell us who it was?
Don't you remember?

If you can't remember who it was or who she worked for or when the interview was or what station...
Isn't it also possible that you misremembered what you heard?

Also, you originally claimed that doctors and experts were claiming all the time that the vaccine was 100% safe with no side effects.
Now you're down to one radio interview you barely remember and can't actually quote.

So yea, you were telling porkies...