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Floppybits wrote: » Will it be another black mark against Harris if he fails to get this seat for FG.
RandomViewer wrote: » Watched them on the week in politics yesterday, nobody stood out, FF woman was very poor speaker and struggled to get her point across, they showed clips of the also running and let Barrat vomit his bile , guessing the studio panel didn't see these clips live as Geoghegan condemned them about 10 minutes later ,so someone must have had a word in his earpiece
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Only opinion poll (AFAIK) shows FG on 27% and Labour on 22. Received wisdom is this would mean a narrow victory for Bacik, given how much more transfer-friendly she is likely to be than Geoghegan.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Who is ahead in the polling, (not paying much attention tbh)
Loafing Oaf wrote: » There's no debate about that for most people who generally vote SF or the smaller left parties. I can't see any downside for Bacik for the perception to grow that this is a two-horse race between her and Geoghegan.
Calhoun wrote: » The danger is in a two horse race people may pick the lesser of two evils and considering both of their past political backgrounds its hard to tell who is worse Geoghegan or Bacik.
Calhoun wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/red-faced-rte-admits-showing-ivana-bacik-tv-programme-before-by-election-was-an-inadvertent-error-40616724.html RTE playing games may have a bit of a positive bump for other candidates particularly FG candidate if the polls are true is competing directly with Bacik.
Floppybits wrote: » Geoghegan is the one I would worry about getting in especially with his involvement with Renua.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The succession of indignation and anger from FG about an IT opinion piece on Geoghegan this morning is glorious to read. As yer man in Dad's Army used say, 'they don't like it up 'em'.
Shebean wrote: » Agreed. You could maybe put restrictions on port arrivals but bar a 'Management reserve the right to admission' kind of thing the word 'discrimination' will be raised. The important thing is we pay someone to put it together before we research anything.
Floppybits wrote: » I don't like this route that the government is going down with extra freedoms for vaccinated versus the unvaccinated. It is asking for trouble creating a them and us situation.
Shebean wrote: » The next kerfuffle will be all the civil liberties arguments of vaccine passports for going for a sandwich. Showing personal health information to some youngfella on minimum wage will not fly. Maybe an app that shows a simple yes or no? But I don't know how that can be enforced. I expect a lot of tax payer money to be spent before it's scrapped.
RandomViewer wrote: » Would be thinking someone's been given the wink for the App already, what's the odds it won't be compatible with half the phones
FrancieBrady wrote: » FG are currently doing what FF or FG did when they went into various coalitions. They are setting up FF as the fall guys for this coalition. Wiser and smarter than FF? Can they maintain it when FG take the Taoiseach reins again or will FF turn out to be the real smarty's of the piece I.E.- allowing FG's leadership to be freshest in the minds of disgruntled voters. Stay tuned!
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » The only poll that counts is the General Election. Here is the popular vote totals for FF+FG over the past 4 elections. GE 2007 = 1,422,993 GE 2011 = 1,188,986 GE 2016 = 1,063,496 GE 2020 = 939,904 You honestly think this trend will be reversed by the chaos coalition?
Finty Lemon wrote: » Monaghan winning an All Ireland would be unprecedented but you would still accept it Francie. Dream on for that one too lad
Marine Layer wrote: » polls so far indicate enough of the electorate would bring in T.D's that would return the current government and that the power envy party would be in opposition again 5 to 600 days before we find out
Finty Lemon wrote: » Why?
Shebean wrote: » Speaking on FF and FG like one unit shows a problem for their identities. Most of the support one would get to usher them in to government was that they weren't the other. FF win, FG lose or FG win FF lose. The fact that they had/have to join forces tells the electorate they'll do anything to keep others out. Varadkar said so much about SF the other week. I think this will damage FF/FG in the long run. In the least they'll be tied together in the mind of the electorate for some years. This will lessen the traditional bounce effect were voters would drift from one to the other. While we are likely to see one of FF/FG in the next government there's a strong possibility they'll be a junior partner.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The fact there is, that in order to test that arrangement, FF/FG/Greens have to put that arrangement to the people in the next campaign. But will they or will they lie again about who they will go into coalition with? If the electorate buy the lie again then they will get what they deserve. The decline in FF and FG's vote share from a high of 86% to just over 40% shows that more and more are moving away from them.
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