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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

alchemist33

I've seen two main options put forward on this forum, (1) that he'll remain a political force until the 2024 primaries start up and the Republicans have to take him seriously or (2) that he'll be so mired in litigation that he'll have no time for politics.

There are of course other options for the next 4 years - prison, exile, death or ill-health (he isn't young and he's been under stress), no politics but a business success, emperor. But it'd be an interesting exercise for people to lay their cards on the table now and make their predictions.

Personally I think his political influence will die quickly after the Capitol fiasco but someone else will emerge in 2 years, once the memories have waned, to be the standard-bearer for the QAnon wing.

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ohnonotgmail

Penn wrote: »

In fairness, they could be doing Trump a massive favour by blocking livestreams of his rallies, considering he's almost outright admitting to the tax fraud charges

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1411493248502317056?s=19

I'm sure weisselberg is really grateful to trump for publicly admitting he is guilty.

Tell me how

Bluffer and BS artist.

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1411499287851241476

Always was, always will be.

PropJoe10

Tell me how wrote: »

Bluffer and BS artist.

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1411499287851241476

Always was, always will be.

He sure is. Unfortunately, none of that stuff matters due to the intellectual deficiency of his base voter. You can literally go back through his Tweet archive and find a tweet for every occasion, yet, 75 million Americans voted for another 4 years of that. It's always worth keeping that situation in mind when thinking about the Trump era.

Tell me how

PropJoe10 wrote: »

He sure is. Unfortunately, none of that stuff matters due to the intellectual deficiency of his base voter. You can literally go back through his Tweet archive and find a tweet for every occasion, yet, 75 million Americans voted for another 4 years of that. It's always worth keeping that situation in mind when thinking about the Trump era.

Have spoken about this before, yes, there are some (like those who attend his rallies) who struggle to put two and two together and get four, but the majority of the 74M don't fall in to this category but rather a rabid affinity with 'their' party and a fear of what they think the Democrats stand for.

Trump isn't so much a symptom of poor education but rather how problematic a two party system is.

briany

Tell me how wrote: »

Have spoken about this before, yes, there are some (like those who attend his rallies) who struggle to put two and two together and get four, but the majority of the 74M don't fall in to this category but rather a rabid affinity with 'their' party and a fear of what they think the Democrats stand for.

Trump isn't so much a symptom of poor education but rather how problematic a two party system is.

Unless we poll them all with basic maths questions, it would be a generalisation to say that all Trump supporters are thick. If we go back to the Capitol Hill riot and Jenna Ryan, for example, we see a woman, an apparently successful realtor who flew on a private plane out to the riot and posed next to a smashed window which she posted on Twitter, without an apparent care in the world. There seems to be a bubbling narcissism and egocentricity and entitlement among a large swathe of middle class Conservative America that creates a huge blind spot for stupid actions such as the one outlined above.

Not that there aren't also those who couldn't do basic maths questions among his support, but just to say I think the picture is a little more complex.

Anyway, this thing about the moderate Republican voter who thinks Trump is the lesser of two evils - I'd like that to be true, but where were all these people in the 2016 primary when they had several other lesser evils to pick from besides Trump?

Tell me how

briany wrote: »

Unless we poll them all with basic maths questions, it would be a generalisation to say that all Trump supporters are thick. If we go back to the Capitol Hill riot and Jenna Ryan, for example, we see a woman, an apparently successful realtor who flew on a private plane out to the riot and posed next to a smashed window which she posted on Twitter, without an apparent care in the world. There seems to be a bubbling narcissism and egocentricity and entitlement among a large swathe of middle class Conservative America that creates a huge blind spot for stupid actions such as the one outlined above.

Not that there aren't also those who couldn't do basic maths questions among his support, but just to say I think the picture is a little more complex.

Anyway, this thing about the moderate Republican voter who thinks Trump is the lesser of two evils - I'd like that to be true, but where were all these people in the 2016 primary when they had several other lesser evils to pick from besides Trump?

It seems a lot of business owners, from small contractor types to large enterprises generally sway Republican because of the perception that they will be more favourable in terms of taxes.

Would be ignorant in itself to say that all such people are stupid enough to vote for Trump but smart enough to run successful businesses.

Christy42

Intelligence is a weird and wonderful thing. Some insanely smart people have fallen for the dumbest catfish scams.

An inability to reason in one area does not mean it will follow in others. Also while many business owners are smart. Many are not. It is not the most vital attribute for a business owner.

Overheal

Tell me how wrote: »

It seems a lot of business owners, from small contractor types to large enterprises generally sway Republican because of the perception that they will be more favourable in terms of taxes.

Would be ignorant in itself to say that all such people are stupid enough to vote for Trump but smart enough to run successful businesses.

Among the two parties Dems tend to be proponents of labor, Reps proponent of business owners. Obviously that’s not universal: the Republicans are vociferously against Unions but you never hear that campaign rhetoric in West Virginia, all you hear about there is protecting coal jobs etc.

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briany wrote: »

Unless we poll them all with basic maths questions, it would be a generalisation to say that all Trump supporters are thick.

True. They are certainly less educated, but this itself is because they tend to live in urban towns, which itself leads to them being less educated, and round and round we go.

Tell me how

^^^^

That's pretty stark to be fair.
Was that in a singular state or region or across the nation? Was there a sample size associated with the graph?

Overheal

Tell me how wrote: »

^^^^

That's pretty stark to be fair.
Was that in a singular state or region or across the nation? Was there a sample size associated with the graph?

Yea I was about to say there is no citation there.

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National level. Data taken from here and here.

There is also a plot splitting that data into four income brackets showing that the correlation gets stronger with increasing income.

Overheal

Seems that MAGA is still getting the occasionally hands on lesson in how free speech and the Internet really works.

Having moved on to the aforementioned GETTR platform as a response to Twitter shadow banning accusations, GETTR promotes a “free marketplace of ideas. Free speech. Independent thought.”

Proponents of free speech and independent thought have been testing the boundaries of that free marketplace with Sonic the Hedgehog furries porn.

(SFW link) https://kotaku.com/sonic-smut-is-flooding-trump-s-new-social-network-1847226591

briany

Overheal wrote: »

Seems that MAGA is still getting the occasionally hands on lesson in how free speech and the Internet really works.

Having moved on to the aforementioned GETTR platform as a response to Twitter shadow banning accusations, GETTR promotes a “free marketplace of ideas. Free speech. Independent thought.”

Proponents of free speech and independent thought have been testing the boundaries of that free marketplace with Sonic the Hedgehog furries porn.

(SFW link) https://kotaku.com/sonic-smut-is-flooding-trump-s-new-social-network-1847226591

There's no such thing as true free speech on the Internet anyway. If there was, paedophiles could come on there and discuss why it's nice to date 9 year olds and have that be accepted as a valid contribution to a free marketplace of ideas, instead of being rightly hounded and abused.

This is an extreme example, but it is to illustrate that people are sometimes excluded from online platforms because their views are repugnant and don't deserve the opportunity to be promulgated. Not because anyone is against freedom of speech.

joseywhales

where can I find the nsfw link?

extra gravy

joseywhales wrote: »

where can I find the nsfw link?

I believe pornhub has a furry category, knock yourself out!

joseywhales

extra gravy wrote: »

I believe pornhub has a furry category, knock yourself out!

yeah, a few minutes was enough education for me. It's amazing, the power of imagination.

mcmoustache

Overheal wrote: »

Seems that MAGA is still getting the occasionally hands on lesson in how free speech and the Internet really works.

Having moved on to the aforementioned GETTR platform as a response to Twitter shadow banning accusations, GETTR promotes a “free marketplace of ideas. Free speech. Independent thought.”

Proponents of free speech and independent thought have been testing the boundaries of that free marketplace with Sonic the Hedgehog furries porn.

(SFW link) https://kotaku.com/sonic-smut-is-flooding-trump-s-new-social-network-1847226591

It's all been so amateurish. All the MAGA adjacent stuff. All of it.

everlast75

extra gravy wrote: »

I believe pornhub has a furry category, knock one out yourself!

Fyp

TheIrishGrover

Overheal wrote: »

Seems that MAGA is still getting the occasionally hands on lesson in how free speech and the Internet really works.

Having moved on to the aforementioned GETTR platform as a response to Twitter shadow banning accusations, GETTR promotes a “free marketplace of ideas. Free speech. Independent thought.”

Proponents of free speech and independent thought have been testing the boundaries of that free marketplace with Sonic the Hedgehog furries porn.

(SFW link) https://kotaku.com/sonic-smut-is-flooding-trump-s-new-social-network-1847226591

GETTR?

Jesus Christ. My God, he really REALLY needs to move on. Seriously? Surprised it's not LKERUP.

Tippex

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's all been so amateurish. All the MAGA adjacent stuff. All of it.

hmmm they are using google's privacy policy and Terms of service https://gettr.com/login

Igotadose

In Trump-related indictment news, here's a nifty analysis of the indictment, that refutes Trump's misbegotten offspring's contention that this is a 'fringe benefits case.' Summary: It's a federal income-tax evasion case or will be, it includes fraudulent keeping of 2 sets of books, accounting of cash as a 'fringe benefits' and various seedy things. It does not, however, indict Trump. That may be yet to come

https://www.justsecurity.org/77331/the-weisselberg-indictment-is-not-a-fringe-benefits-case/

dinorebel

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

GETTR?

Jesus Christ. My God, he really REALLY needs to move on. Seriously? Surprised it's not LKERUP.

Thought GRFTR would be appropriate myself.

duploelabs

dinorebel wrote: »

Thought GRFTR would be appropriate myself.

Sounds like it's a continuation of Wuff and to have a backend that was also developed in a utility cupboard

duploelabs

They can't even keep the message straight from a tweet of an article that Trump's new spokesperson tweeted...
"
In the tweet, the subheadline of the story read: “There has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have affected the outcome of the election.”
"
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_60e2b463e4b068186f512583

Itssoeasy

duploelabs wrote: »

They can't even keep the message straight from a tweet of an article that Trump's new spokesperson tweeted...
"
In the tweet, the subheadline of the story read: “There has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have affected the outcome of the election.”
"
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_60e2b463e4b068186f512583

The best people etc etc…

Overheal

dinorebel wrote: »

Thought GRFTR would be appropriate myself.

I'm surprised DURKADR is still available

Igotadose

Seems like Melania has moved on; not living at Mar-a-Lago nor spending much time with the #2xIMPOTUS. Well, she got what she wanted, a financed kid and US citizenship for her mother and ex-Communist party father.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-eat-alone-mar-a-lago-restaurant-2021-7?r=US&IR=T

Quin_Dub

Igotadose wrote: »

Seems like Melania has moved on; not living at Mar-a-Lago nor spending much time with the #2xIMPOTUS. Well, she got what she wanted, a financed kid and US citizenship for her mother and ex-Communist party father.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-eat-alone-mar-a-lago-restaurant-2021-7?r=US&IR=T

As an aside , everything I've ever read about Mar-a-Lago makes it seem like an incredibly tacky awful place.

Full of seedy nouveau riche types trying desperately to seem like they have style - A kind of Hamptons for the utterly classless.

TheIrishGrover

Quin_Dub wrote: »

As an aside , everything I've ever read about Mar-a-Lago makes it seem like an incredibly tacky awful place.

Full of seedy nouveau riche types trying desperately to seem like they have style - A kind of Hamptons for the utterly classless.

Does this look tacky to you? DOES IT???!!!!!

Donald-Trump-Mar-a-Lago-Palm-Beach-Florida_4-768x975.jpg

My eyes are bleeding.....