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FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Oh dearie me, the government moves quickly and private sector pharmacists are slow on the uptake. I am surprised that we haven't had SF types on here calling for the nationalisation of pharmacies because they are slow to implement the government's decision.

Oh.......I see,.....that would mean conceding the government is right to roll out vaccines as quick as possible.

The government moves quickly?

Good one!

I see they are finally going to go against NPHET and introduce antigen testing....quick move there alright!

Somebody senior in the health service said to me that the reason the first 'on the ground' response to the pandemic and the vaccine rollout was so good and efficient was because there is so many wasting their time plodding on keyboards and never doing a days work in the Health service so there were loads available to deploy to the task.
Stands to reason, it was a very efficient service when I engaged with i a few times for my own jab and for people I care for.

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The government moves quickly? Good one!

I see they are finally going to go against NPHET and introduce antigen testing....quick move there alright!

Somebody senior in the health service said to me that the reason the first 'on the ground' response to the pandemic and the vaccine rollout was so good and efficient was because there is so many wasting their time plodding on keyboards and never doing a days work in the Health service so there were loads available to deploy to the task.
Stands to reason, it was a very efficient service when I engaged with i a few times for my own jab and for people I care for.

Are you suggesting a widespread cull in the HSE once this covid is over? Which union group will you target first?

FrancieBrady

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Are you suggesting a widespread cull in the HSE once this covid is over? Which union group will you target first?

I'd like to start again with the HSE lad.

Let's not get into a protracted debate about what everyone knows, the waste in the admin of the health and public service.

I was told something and it was not hard to see how it made sense. Take it or leave it.

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I think I've got my answer finally on why the FrancieBrady account won't acknowledge this time that the government should have followed Nphet advice
My own view is the 19th is where that should end and the antigen testing if not vaccinated at indoor dining should begin
It seems to be what they're aiming for

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

I think I've got my answer finally on why the FrancieBrady account won't acknowledge this time that the government should have followed Nphet advice
My own view is the 19th is where that should end and the antigen testing if not vaccinated at indoor dining should begin
It seems to be what they're aiming for

No idea what that has to do with me.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No idea what that has to do with me.

Of course you don't it was just a couple of days ago and the modus operandi is answers like the above will deflect from being called out on moving goalposts to maximise giving out
They don't
All for following nphet advice last Xmas
All against it now
Pretence when questioned
No exact position untill the government decides except they're too slow(when in fact they're quick)
Both positions probably prepared
One used
Zero credibility
This Sherlock has the FrancieBrady accounts posts All deduced

FrancieBrady

Marine Layer wrote: »

Of course you don't it was just a couple of days ago and the modus operandi is answers like the above will deflect from being called out on moving goalposts to maximise giving out
They don't
All for following nphet advice last Xmas
All against it now
Pretence when questioned
No exact position untill the government decides except they're too slow(when in fact they're quick)
Both positions probably prepared
One used
Zero credibility
This Sherlock has the FrancieBrady accounts posts All deduced

You got a bee in your bonnet because I said that the government should follow the health advice (which includes but ins't exclusive to NPHET).

Other than that I'm still not sure what your issue is.

Now I see the snide accusation that I have 'accounts'.

Can you back up what you mean by that accusation or withdraw it please?

RandomViewer

Surprised there were no polls this weekend,

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'd like to start again with the HSE lad.

Let's not get into a protracted debate about what everyone knows, the waste in the admin of the health and public service.

I was told something and it was not hard to see how it made sense. Take it or leave it.

Why not debate it? Starting again is the easy bit. Sounds a bit like a pol pot socialist experiment.

RandomViewer

Week in politics doing Dublin by-election Alan B"stard lives.
horrile little gnome Barratt got spouting his bile on RTE?

FrancieBrady

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Why not debate it? Starting again is the easy bit. Sounds a bit like a pol pot socialist experiment.

Housing and health in crisis...suggest change and you are likened to Pol Pot.

Yeh, sure Finty, who wouldn't be up for a debate with that mindset?

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Housing and health in crisis...suggest change and you are likened to Pol Pot.

Yeh, sure Finty, who wouldn't be up for a debate with that mindset?

Suggested 'starting again' what is that?? Either a nonsense vague notion or maybe a nice euphemism for something more radical.

FrancieBrady

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Suggested 'starting again' what is that?? Either a nonsense vague notion or maybe a nice euphemism for something more radical.

If you think start again is 'vague' that would be another red flag about entering debate with you.

The comment I made stands on it's own. Make of it what you will.

Finty Lemon

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you think start again is 'vague' that would be another red flag about entering debate with you.

The comment I made stands on it's own. Make of it what you will.

I presume "start again" means privatize the lot?

Finty Lemon

Russia is in the grip of a 3rd covid wave. Only 16% of the population has received its first vaccine.

Vaccine hesitancy is widespread in the population, a legacy of decades of a socialist government system that 'managed' information to its subjects

FrancieBrady

While pointing out what he did, is welcome, what he should be saying is that unpunished state killings of civilians is a much more fundamental threat to democracy and human rights than that of paramilitaries or subversives.

State killings require scrutiny and justice to be served no matter how long ago they happened.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ddf5ec60-dc42-11eb-a2c2-c6b14b84b2dd?shareToken=593a5ea8f39513197dfc5e23c4046147

Finty Lemon

"In this paper, we have studied the impact of rent control on its tenant beneficiaries as well as the landlord response. To answer this question, we exploit a unique rent control expansion in San Francisco in 1994 that suddenly provided rent control protections for small multi-family housing built prior to 1980. By combining new panel microdata on individual migration decisions with detailed assessor data on individual parcels in San Francisco, we get quasi-experimental variation in the assignment of rent control at both the individual tenant level and at the parcel level.

We find that, on average, in the medium to long term the beneficiaries of rent control are between 10 and 20 percent more likely to remain at their 1994 address relative to the control group and, moreover, are more likely to remain in San Francisco. Further, we find the effects of rent control on tenants are stronger for racial minorities, suggesting rent control helped prevent minority displacement from San Francisco. All our estimated effects are significantly stronger among older households and among households that have already spent a number of years at their current address. On the other hand, individuals in areas with quickly rising house prices and with few years at their 1994 address are less likely to remain at their current address, consistent with the idea that landlords try to remove tenants when the
reward is high, through either eviction or negotiated payments.

We find that landlords actively respond to the imposition of rent control by converting their properties to condos and TICs or by redeveloping the building in such as a way as to exempt it from the regulations. In sum, we find that impacted landlords reduced the supply of available rental housing by 15 percent. Further, we find that there was a 25 percent decline in the number of renters living in units protected by rent control, as many buildings were converted to new construction or condos that are exempt from rent control.

This reduction in rental supply likely increased rents in the long run, leading to a transfer between future San Francisco renters and renters living in San Francisco in 1994. In addition, the conversion of existing rental properties to higher-end, owner-occupied condominium housing ultimately led to a housing stock increasingly directed toward higher income individuals. In this way, rent control contributed to the gentrification of San Francisco, contrary to the stated policy goal. Rent control appears to have increased income inequality in the city by both limiting displacement of minorities and attracting higher income residents.

These results highlight that forcing landlords to provide insurance against rent increases can ultimately be counterproductive. If society desires to provide social insurance against rent increases, it may be less distortionary to offer this subsidy
in the form of government subsidies or tax credits. This would remove landlords’ incentives to decrease the housing supply and could provide households with the insurance they desire. A point of future research would be to design an optimal social insurance program to insure renters against large rent increases." Interesting conclusions from a 2018 manhatten institute paper.

SF made the housing situation worse by introducing rent control
A better solution is tax breaks for residential developers to boost supply

Bass Reeves

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Russia is in the grip of a 3rd covid wave. Only 16% of the population has received its first vaccine.

Vaccine hesitancy is widespread in the population, a legacy of decades of a socialist government system that 'managed' information to its subjects

It seems it one thing a lot of EU Government's are envious of Ireland of. The uptake of vaccines right accross the age groups is astounding them. We cannot get vaccine's fast enough. As fast as we get them we use them. I think for the hoping and having at present it four days from coming into the country that a vaccine ends up in someone's arm. If you do not take it someone else will. Waiting my second AZ dose tempted to ring a few pharmacy's and go on backup for second dose. It's a matter of getting on with it now

Floppybits

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It seems it one thing a lot of EU Government's are envious of Ireland of. The uptake of vaccines right accross the age groups is astounding them. We cannot get vaccine's fast enough. As fast as we get them we use them. I think for the hoping and having at present it four days from coming into the country that a vaccine ends up in someone's arm. If you do not take it someone else will. Waiting my second AZ dose tempted to ring a few pharmacy's and go on backup for second dose. It's a matter of getting on with it now

It's because we have been locked down for so long, the fear that is out there driven by the media and now the drive for a 2 tier society with restrictions on people's freedom who have not taken the vaccine. People just want the lockdown over with and all restrictions lifted. Simple as that

Fann Linn

Floppybits wrote: »

It's because we have been locked down for so long, the fear that is out there driven by the media and now the drive for a 2 tier society with restrictions on people's freedom who have not taken the vaccine. People just want the lockdown over with and all restrictions lifted. Simple as that

60000 at the Austran Grand Prix today and our crowd wetting themselves over a few sheep pens in Kilmainham last night for a concert and 500 in Wexford for Leinster quarter final football match.

Floppybits

Fann Linn wrote: »

60000 at the Austran Grand Prix today and our crowd wetting themselves over a few sheep pens in Kilmainham last night for a concert and 500 in Wexford for Leinster quarter final football match.

Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown

Fann Linn

Floppybits wrote: »

Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown

Legacy of FFG governance. 44 in hospital and society can't move on.

Floppybits

Fann Linn wrote: »

Legacy of FFG governance. 44 in hospital and society can't move on.

Exactly even if the vaccines work and hospital numbers don't increase they won't open due to the capacity issued. FF FG and the the unions that have mismanaged and destroyed the HSE should be held to account.

Relax brah

Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

Fils

Floppybits wrote: »

Well Reid was on today saying that the hospitals are at capacity and that is with just 44 covid cases in hospital. No capacity added so we can expect another lockdown

Paul Reid need to be removed from his position, clueless.

Fann Linn

Relax brah wrote: »

Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

Easily pleased.

RandomViewer

Relax brah wrote: »

Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

Well his own party members have said that Varadkar is on the spectrum ,whether that's the Autism spectrum or the HSEs main computer is anyone's guess

Billcarson

Relax brah wrote: »

Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

Another deluded gov supporter.
I think you need to be prescribed something yourself.

FrancieBrady

Relax brah wrote: »

Delighted how leo handled that headcase Pearse Doherty the other day. Chap needs to be prescribed a course of Xanax or something - absolute nutter

'Handling' Pearse would have been countering his points wth the truth as he saw it. Nope, what we got was arrogance and deflection.

[Deleted User]

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Handling' Pearse would have been countering his points wth the truth as he saw it. Nope, what we got was arrogance and deflection.

Leo pointed out the obvious. He’s sick of the vocal posturing of the empty vessels in opposition, who are more interested in social media likes than actually doing anything proactive re housing.