King Mob wrote: » Lol Ok. You weren't saying you were an expert. You were just claiming that you have special knowledge normal people don't have because of your job and training? Ok. So because you have this special knowledge and it's definately not something you're making up, could you provide evidence for your claim? You claimed that the vaccines were part of a plot to cause depopulation. How did your job allow you to make this determination and what evidence do you have? Have you considered that maybe you don't actually know enough about how the vaccines were developed? If not, what research did you do on it? Did you just read stuff from sites like "the Daily Expose" etc? You haven't really said anything. You were asked to explain what measures were going to be permanent and why. You did not provide a rational or deep answer. You made vague claims and went on bizarre tangents. You ignored the question more or less and now you're running away. This pattern has been repeating for the last 5000 pages. Once again, you demonstrate that there's nothing to the conspiracy theories and you show why no one is taking them seriously.
Grofus wrote: » Now the question you are so desperate for the answer to.When you have a control in place like the covid passport, it maintains the fear level. If you haven't yet worked it out, most people are controlled by fear. Our government controls with fear. Do this or else, dont do that. Wear your mask, don't stand there, don't have your family round for Xmas, no you can't go to the funeral. Wake up FFS
Grofus wrote: » I'm not all upset. I made the statement about my work history simply to Imply that I know the process involved. Background knowledge that your average joe wouldn't have. My role was to liase with consultants on which drug might best suit the medical needs of a patient. That gives me more than enough insight to state " the current drugs being given to an unsuspecting uninformed public are anything but a vaccine" It is not possible to research, develop, manufacture and thoroughly test a drug or vaccine in 9 months. It just isn't. The public is being used as an experiment.
Grofus wrote: » I've said my bit now watch this space
King Mob wrote: » I answered your question directly in my last post. When you posted this I believed that you were claiming to be an expert. If this is not the case, then there must be some other reason why you posted your claim about your work history. So I might be wrong when I concluded that you were falsely claiming to be an expert. However, there doesn't seem to be another reason why you posted your claim. If you have one, please explain. Otherwise, then you're going to have accept that as my answer. However, it's pretty obvious that you've been upset by being asked direct questions and you are unlikely to actually address the original one. You can't explain what measures are going to be permanent or why. Looks like we might get to 6000 posts without an answer...
Grofus wrote: » Don't attempt to patronise me. Im just playing your game now. Answer the question, when did I say I was an expert, When? Show me the evidence. Then we can move on
Again, you claimed that you worked in the pharma industry as support for your various conspiracy claims.
King Mob wrote: » Again, you claimed that you worked in the pharma industry as support for your various conspiracy claims. If you're not an expert, what relevance does your work history have? Again, a simple question that you can't give a straight answer to. The real answer is you believed that your work history somehow gives some authority to your claims. You didn't expect to be challenged on it. Now, you're backpeddling. So lets try again.What measures specifically are going to be permanent?We can just focus on one if you find it too difficult to list them.
Grofus wrote: » Again, when did I say I was an expert at you claim. Show the proof I said that. See how easy this game is.
King Mob wrote: » I asked you to explain what measures were going to be permanent. You didn't answer. You ignored the question. I asked you to explain how these "Control mechanisms" would specifically work beyond your vague and empty hand waving about "control" and "fear." You didn't answer. You ignored the question. I'm extra interested now than you agree that masks and lockdowns aren't going to be permanent, how this fits into the rest of your vague and bizarre conspiracy theory. Instead, you went on freeman of the land rants. So lets try again. What measures specifically are going to be permanent? We can just focus on one if you find it too difficult to list them. Yes. And then I asked you for evidence of this. And you ignored that. So you're saying that you're not and expert now. Ok. So what relevance does your work history in pharma have? How does it allow you to determine that the vaccines are actually part of a plot of depopulate the planet?
King Mob wrote: » Ok. If that's true, why then are you avoiding the questions I asked about it? Why not use your expertise to explain your conspiracy theory? Why are you ignoring it and running away? Again, I think the actual answer is that you don't actually have any expertise or evidence and you're just making things up. Why do you expect someone to just believe that you're an expert when you aren't actually backing it up with anything? Do you think people will just immediately accept your claims because you claim to be an expert?
Grofus wrote: » You asked what control mechanisms were used, i answered. It is you that can't fathom a coherent reply.
Grofus wrote: » I made it perfectly clear earlier about spike proteins being a cytotoxin. Again, you jumped to the conclusion im an expert. I just stated I worked in the industry.
Grofus wrote: » Just read your bit about swallowing bull#$^€ about the vaccine. It may interest you to know that I worked in the pharmaceutical industry in the USA for years. Good luck with the experimental gene therapy
Grofus wrote: » I'm not running away. .
King Mob wrote: » And questions dodged again. Noticing a pattern here? Control mechanisms that you can't actually point to or explain. Well I've been asking which measures are going to be permanent for about 5000 pages. You agree that masks and lockdowns aren't going to be permanent. Cool. So then we're back to your claim that the passports are going to be permanent. How does this fit into the rest of your conspiracy theory? I suspect, it doesn't really. You don't have a coherent theory. Lol. Because the slight inconvenience to people who don't get vaccinated because they swallowed bull**** from the internet is not comparable to what happened during the holocaust. Well I'm asking you because it's your conspiracy theory. But you've just admitted that you don't know and can't actually explain your conspiracy theory here. Hence we can conclude you're talking nonsense and your claims are false. There is no plot to use the vaccines to depopulate the planet. Lol. When all else fails, call people sheep and run away. That'll convince folks alright...
Grofus wrote: » You really are done for. You can't see the control mechanisms already in place.
Grofus wrote: » I said no such thing regarding lockdowns and masks being permanent. Where did you get that from, re read the post.
Grofus wrote: » Why is the holocaust a ridiculous comparsion?
Grofus wrote: » How many will the vaccine kill, who knows.
Grofus wrote: » How many sheep will get it? Answer that. Best of luck mate Baaa
King Mob wrote: » And question dodged again. Do you not understand this is why no one is taking you guys seriously? Yes. Because you couldn't answer my question about it, then ignored it. This indicates that you don't actually do anything to verify what you're told to believe by conspiracy sources like the Daily Expose. If that's not the case, why did you avoid the question? Why not answer it now? If you don't and ignore it again, then I think that supports my conclusion. But if it's so obvious, why can't you explain it in concrete terms? You've also changed your answer 3 times now. First it was only going to be the passports. Then passports and masks. Now you're claiming that Passports, masks and lockdowns are all going to be permanent. Again, this looks like you don't actually know and you're just making things up. Lol. Ridiculous comparsion. You've also ignored my question. I asked you to explain how many people they plan to kill using the vaccine. Why did you ignore this question? Do you not know? Yet, you can't provide any evidence or coherent argument. Yes. I know. Because you're talking nonsense and the conspiracy theory isn't true. No evidence then. Cool.
Grofus wrote: » No, I haven't admitted I just believe things from the daily expose. That is your conclusion.
Grofus wrote: » If you can't see for yourself how masks, lockdowns and covid passports control people then you are beyond help.
Grofus wrote: » 6 million Jews thought they were going to a holiday camp. Dont think it can't happen again. The marginalisation of the unvaccinated has already begun. It won't end well for anyone.
Grofus wrote: » But I can see here that I could write a 5000 page journal on the subject and it still won't be enough.
Grofus wrote: » This clear answer you allude to, there isn't one
Grofus wrote: » The evidence you want for the mass killings. Wait and see. BTW, its not my claim.
King Mob wrote: » Have you not wondered why you're having trouble providing a clear answer? Have you not wondered why it's been over 5000 pages without any answer? Evidence for this? Also, how many people do you believe they plan on killing with this vaccine? Ok. So they're using the vaccine passport and masks to make people afraid? How does this help them control people? Do you believe these measures are going to be permanent? Again, just rambling about "fear" and "control" is kind of nonspecific and empty. It doesn't really mean much. So please be exact in your answers. Lol. By "wake up" you seem to mean stop asking you difficult questions that make you uncomfortable and just start believing you claims even though you can't actually explain them or make any sense of them, never mind support them. As you've admitted, you just believe things you read on crank sites like "Daily Expose" without question or any attempt to verify claims. Is this being "awake"?
Grofus wrote: » Now the question you are so desperate for the answer to.
Grofus wrote: » Thing is, the spike protein is now known to be a cytotoxin which is capable of triggering all sort of conditions from blood clots, heart conditions, liver failure, cancers, the list goes on
Grofus wrote: » When you have a control in place like the covid passport, it maintains the fear level. If you haven't yet worked it out, most people are controlled by fear. Our government controls with fear. Do this or else, dont do that. Wear your mask, don't stand there, don't have your family round for Xmas, no you can't go to the funeral.
Grofus wrote: » Wake up FFS
King Mob wrote: » Sure. But why can't I ask conspiracy theorists questions also? Why aren't you able to answer those questions directly, clearly and fully? Why do you have to ignore them? No, misrepresenting things with no coherent point or reason is rambling. Ok. How? Well, the mrna vaccines target the spike protein and when injected, your own cells replicate that and thats 2hat triggers the immunity response. Thing is, the spike protein is now known to be a cytotoxin which is capable of triggering all sort of conditions from blood clots, heart conditions, liver failure, cancers, the list goes on And now, since you've ignored the question for a 3rd time, I will just go ahead and assume that you can't answer it either. You can't explain which measures are going to be permanent or why they would be. This is because they aren't and the conspiracy theory is nonsense. You also understand this fact, hence why you are ignoring and avoiding the questions.
Grofus wrote: » Further to this, why don't you ask your searching questions to your government. You know, the folk that are giving all the facts and figures on latest infections etc. The PCR was ....
Grofus wrote: » Oh I see, when facts are provided its rambling.
Grofus wrote: » The vaccine is the tool they have used in their plan.
King Mob wrote: » You're the one claiming to know what's really going and and has special insight us sheep don't have. So please answer the question. You claim to have not been here before, but you've avoided the question twice now. Are you going to do it a 3rd time? The rest of your post rambling about vaccines is a good example. Ok. Which mates? How do they plan to depopulate the world? What does this have to do with covid measures? And since you're outright pretending the question didn't exist, I assume that means you can't explain why you trust a crank source like "the Daily Expose." You just do because it agrees with your conspiratorial beliefs.
Grofus wrote: » How can I possibly say what measures will be permanent. If they were my desicions I'd tell you.
Grofus wrote: » Which conspiratorial tangents are you referring to.
Grofus wrote: » And yes I am new here and I do think Bill GATES and his mates are trying to depopulate the world
King Mob wrote: » Mm hmm. Sure. We've been hearing that a lot lately. Ok. So you believe that the only measure that will be permanent will be travel restrictions. Why? You ignored that part of the question. Opinion is not fact unfortunately. And this isn't true. And it doesn't really have anything to do with the topic. Lol. Ok. Are you claiming that covid restrictions are part of a plot to depopulate the planet? Ok. So all billionaires are behind the plot to make covid restrictions permanent? Well, no. I'd prefer if you actually addressed the questions I asked directly clear and without going on these bizarre conspiratorial tangents. You also ignored the second question I asked. I suspect this is because you can't address it. Let's try again step by step. What measures specifically will be permanent? Please just list them without commentary.
Grofus wrote: » I haven't answered them because I've not been on here before.
Grofus wrote: » The right to travel will be inhibited, probably with covid passport system.
Grofus wrote: » The reason the government don't want antigen testing is because it can't be manipulated like a PCR test, just my opinion that one.
Grofus wrote: » Bill Gates is a known pro depopulation advocate.
Grofus wrote: » The Billionaire elites have everything to gain from this. In the last year 97% of the population have lost a combined 37.9 trillion of wealth. Funny how that equates to the gains made by the aleady mega rich.
Grofus wrote: » I could go on but I'm sure there is enough there for you to fact check for now, Enjoy
King Mob wrote: » Ok. If this is the case then, perhaps you can answer the questions that have been dodged for the last 5000 posts. What measures specifically are going to be permanent? Why are those measures specifically going to be permanent? How do they benefit those behind the "sustained and deliberate control of freedoms, liberties and rights to life"? Who specifically is behind "sustained and deliberate control of freedoms, liberties and rights to life"? One reason most rational people don't buy into the conspiracy theory you believe is obvious is because you cats don't answer these questions. Why would anyone believe you when you can't actually explain your conspiracy theory and you seem allergic to talking about it directly?
Grofus wrote: » When the evidence points to a sustained and deliberate control of freedoms, liberties and rights to life then you can be fairly certain that's what is happening. Why do you constantly ignore what is going on right in front of your eyes. Are they closed?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » 1,You are wrong 2, You're wrong again and no one's being "bullied" 3, You're not "new"