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Wimbledon 2021 Monday, June 28 - Sunday, July 11 2021

Hector Savage

The only slam that we skipped due to the pandemic, makes the wait even better ...

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klr87

B2021M wrote: »

I think it was about court maintenance (although i suspect it was originally for religiois reasons).

As far as i know they changed the type of grass to a more durable one and that is why they can do it now. It may also be why they can start at 11am now too (as possibly any dew dries quicker?)

Religious convention had a lot to do with it. Until 1980 or so, it was very rare to have any organised sport on a Sunday in the UK. The men's singles final at Wimbledon, the final round of the British Open in golf: They were held on Saturday. Football matches on a Sunday were almost unheard of. I remember being a bit shocked when the Brighton - Liverpool FA Cup tie in 1983 was played on a Sunday, because I'd not seen that happen before (not that I was that old at the time).

The 11am start time for outer courts is quite recent, and also very likely due to the change in grass, as you've mentioned.

Girly Gal wrote: »

I'd say they didn't want to be seen to be dropping a women's match for men's sports (football or Cilic v Medvedev match), there won't really be any backlash for dropping the Cilic v Medvedev match even though that's the match they should have stayed with.

Medvedev is a strange player, on the one hand looks like he could potentially reach the final, but, also looks like
he could lose the next day out.

They are probably very gun-shy about just dropping a women's match for a men's match, or any other treatment of the women that could be construed as off-hand or sexist.

As I recall, the BBC took a lot of flak (and rightly so) over how it handled the last set of the Annika Beck vs Heather Watson 1st round match in 2016. Because of the fixture congestion over the weather, played started early at 11am on the outer courts on the Thursday - this may have been before the change in grass mentioned above. The start of the BBC2 coverage remained stubbornly at 11:30. Once coverage started, they showed the match from where it resumed at 1-0 in the 3rd, until it concluded 90 minutes later, Beck winning 12-10 (and saving a triple match point at 9-10 0-40). Only then did it become apparent the coverage had been delayed by 30 minutes or so, because they had wanted to show play on BBC2 from the point of resumption. Some viewers realised what was happening, many didn't, and had no reason to. Ironically, anyone browsing via the Red Button could have watched it in real time, if only they'd known. The feeling was this would not have happened if it had been a men's match.

fryup

glasso wrote: »

Kyrgios (a) didn't seem too bothered in the on-court interview and said something along the lines of (b) not being surprised about getting injured having just come back to play high-level tennis.

wish they'd wouldn't have those on court interviews, its just not Wimbledon:o

players just wanna get off court asap esp those who lose....maybe if one of them went into a f bomb rant they might do away with it

klr87

Rjd2 wrote: »

I think the girls are happy to get playing early as pretty sure the winner plays Tuesday?

I don't know what ladies game you move from the 2 showcourts, Barty the number 1 seed v the french champion or the teenage UK sensation? Gauff is also pretty popular at Wimbledon and facing a previous champion so that's also a very juicy match up.

Its a little annoying but not the end of the world.

Court 2 will be the main focus for the first couple of hours, before the two big show Courts come online. After Jabeur's performance against Muguruza on Friday, it's very likely the BBC will prioritise this match. Court 2 has seen some great second Monday morning women's matches in the past, especially the Cibulkova - Randwanska epic in 2016.

Overall, it's a really good schedule. There are both women's and men's matches spread throughout the day. Too often on this second Monday, they aggressively front-load the women's matches in the morning, with the last women's match finishing mid-afternoon. The situation was reversed for the men. So if you particularly wanted to watch either the women or the men, there was a large part of the day when there was no match to watch, and another part where there were too many.

Joe_ Public

I'd say Swiateks happy enough tbh. Hardly any focus on her at all, just swinging along quietly with minimum of fuss and expectation. Meanwhile, all the pressure being heaped on gauff and barty in particular. Not to mention the new young british next big thing. Not a bad position to be in imo.

Rjd2

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Manic Monday schedule

Think Swiatek-Jabeur is worth more than 11am on court 2 tbh.

I think the girls are happy to get playing early as pretty sure the winner plays Tuesday?

I don't know what ladies game you move from the 2 showcourts, Barty the number 1 seed v the french champion or the teenage UK sensation? Gauff is also pretty popular at Wimbledon and facing a previous champion so that's also a very juicy match up.

Its a little annoying but not the end of the world.

yerwanthere123

Manic Monday schedule

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Think Swiatek-Jabeur is worth more than 11am on court 2 tbh.

yerwanthere123

Delighted Kyrgios lost, one less cúnt in the competition.

Was looking forward to giving the tennis my full attention tomorrow only to then find out it's next year that they'll be playing on the first Sunday :rolleyes:

Anyway, that women's last 16 line-up is looking quite decent actually. Would be happy with either Barty, Gauff, Kerber or Swiatek/Sabalenka making the final from their halves. Having said that it'll probably end up being Tomljanovic-Golubic or something.

Men's side is decent too, but all feels very futile when it's simply a question of can any of them stop Djokovic. Heck, I'd even take them making the final competitive.

Slashermcguirk

He is the ultimate attention seeker, find him really annoying. Everything always about him, maturity of a young teen. Spends his time taking digs at other players, particularly Djokovic and Nadal but also other players. He needs to grow up

glasso wrote: »

Kyrgios (a) didn't seem too bothered in the on-court interview and said something along the lines of (b) not being surprised about getting injured having just come back to play high-level tennis.

yet again (a) and (b) here just shows what a waste.

[Deleted User]

Kyrgios (a) didn't seem too bothered in the on-court interview and said something along the lines of (b) not being surprised about getting injured having just come back to play high-level tennis.

yet again (a) and (b) here just shows what a waste.

B2021M

klr87 wrote: »

Maybe they will only use some courts on Sunday, and some on Monday,

I think it was about court maintenance (although i suspect it was originally for religiois reasons).

As far as i know they changed the type of grass to a more durable one and that is why they can do it now. It may also be why they can start at 11am now too (as possibly any dew dries quicker?)

Slashermcguirk

That was a pretty outside shot to be fair. I think Kyrgios has reached one QF at a slam in his whole career. I don’t think he has even reached the final of a masters series

lostcat wrote: »

and just as I was beginning to contemplate how interesting a final between him and Djokovic would be

Girly Gal

Augme wrote: »

Why did they switch to the barty match? I've no interest in that no contest.

I'd say they didn't want to be seen to be dropping a women's match for men's sports (football or Cilic v Medvedev match), there won't really be any backlash for dropping the Cilic v Medvedev match even though that's the match they should have stayed with.

Medvedev is a strange player, on the one hand looks like he could potentially reach the final, but, also looks like
he could lose the next day out.

klr87

fryup wrote: »

you can't beat a good'ol cat fight :pac:

https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/03/zero-respect-emma-raducanus-next-opponent-in-heated-wimbledon-row-14868395/

They just showed the juicy clips from the post-match (off court) interviews on the Beeb

fryup

klr87 wrote: »

The exchange at the end was priceless. Tomljanovic waving to the crowd, Ostapenko going to her bag. Then Ostapenko made a point of waiting at the net to shake hands - which they did:

Aljona at net: You have zero respect. Your behaviour is terrible.
Ajla: Honestly, you are the one to talk.

you can't beat a good'ol cat fight :pac:

https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/03/zero-respect-emma-raducanus-next-opponent-in-heated-wimbledon-row-14868395/

klr87

glasso wrote: »

See Bartoli on the highlights show.

Somebody has taken a foot pump to her.

I thought it impolite to comment on it, but hell yes. She had that problem for a good while where she was desperately thin, which thankfully was diagnosed and resolved. Now she seems to have really let herself go in the other direction.

[Deleted User]

See Bartoli on the highlights show.

Somebody has taken a foot pump to her.

whiterebel

Some ovation for Cilic going off. Never saw him so animated.

klr87

Wait ... they did cut away at 8:30 for the highlights. Maybe they figured no-one would notice with the football on. Anyway, Cilic's goose is well and truly cooked,

klr87

glasso wrote: »

she is only playing a lowly-ranked (in singles) doubles specialist tho

why not stick with the actual better match?

strange

The Beeb may be a bit gun-shy about hopping about from one match to another on a Saturday evening. They've taken enough criticism in the past for things like that, Also, lots of people will have access to the red button, or to streaming, if they really want to see another match.

Cilic/Medvedev is on BBC2 now, so next question: If it's still going at 8:30 (and it will, at 2 sets all), will they break away from coverage for the highlights program? Probably not, for the same reason they stuck with the Barty match.

[Deleted User]

klr87 wrote: »

Because Barty is the #1 seed, and a genuine favourite for the women's title. Medvedev may be #2 seed, but he's not likely to even reach the semi-final*, as he would meet Federer in the quarter-final.

*Or the last 16 at this rate.

The way things are going, they may switch back to Court 1 in 30 minutes or even less. Siniakova is beginning to lose the rag, something that she does far too often.

she is only playing a lowly-ranked (in singles) doubles specialist tho

why not stick with the actual better match?

strange

klr87

AllForIt wrote: »

I always though that was about court maintenance.

Maybe they will only use some courts on Sunday, and some on Monday,

AllForIt

klr87 wrote: »

I somehow missed the announcement in April that from next year, there will be play on middle Sunday, About time too, it was ridiculous to have all 16 fourth-round matches in a single day.

And Norrie breaks back for 3-3.

I always though that was about court maintenance.

klr87

Augme wrote: »

Why did they switch to the barty match? I've no interest in that no contest.

Because Barty is the #1 seed, and a genuine favourite for the women's title. Medvedev may be #2 seed, but he's not likely to even reach the semi-final*, as he would meet Federer in the quarter-final.

*Or the last 16 at this rate.

The way things are going, they may switch back to Court 1 in 30 minutes or even less. Siniakova is beginning to lose the rag, something that she does far too often.

Augme

Although Medvedev is doing his best to make his game a non contest as well.

Augme

Why did they switch to the barty match? I've no interest in that no contest.

lostcat

klr87 wrote: »

Kyrgios retired ...

and just as I was beginning to contemplate how interesting a final between him and Djokovic would be

Royale with Cheese

I switched to the Medvedev Cilic match after watching Federer get over the line. There is a noticeable difference in quality, Cilic playing fairly well.

Floppybits

klr87 wrote: »

Kyrgios retired at one set all with FAA. Wonder if he'll be able to play the next round of mixed doubles with Venus Williams?

Suits him to retire injured. You have to be putting in some effort off the court. Billy Jean King was saying on the BBC earlier that she is just frustrated with him. All that talent and he is wasting it.

klr87

I somehow missed the announcement in April that from next year, there will be play on middle Sunday, About time too, it was ridiculous to have all 16 fourth-round matches in a single day.

And Norrie breaks back for 3-3.

whiterebel

Another sloppy service game.