fryup wrote: » yep, its beginning to look that way when you analysis it... probably a VIP in the local clique? a high ranking guard? a wealthy businessman with political connections? some fella high up in the GAA?
Caquas wrote: » You mean the Gardai allowed their investigation into the most high-profile murder to collapse in order to protect a local man (now conveniently dead)? This is an even bigger scandal than I imagined.
Wildsurfer wrote: » But you must remember Bailey was a journalist, it was his job to be snooping around. And he knew Alfie Lyons who could have tipped him off about the murder
Weddings ahoy wrote: » Please read the Dpp report its linked a few pages back, it page 146 i think, it has raised some interesting points for me and perhaps changed my opinion on a lot of this case, It's clear to see why IB was never trialled in Ireland for this murder, and the incompetence of the Garda is shocking, also the finding that the star witnesses are at 'best wholly unreliable ' is a true description, most statements were taken by AGS much too late to be any way reliable, for instance the young girl staying in the prairie the next day wouldn't she have been a key witness 5/6 after murder not 2 years later when they took her statement, in the show she intimated it was a coat soaking in a tub, in NF book it was clothes soaking in tub, which is it? Or the couple who went back to the prairie on NYE , where IB confessed i did it ..i did it...then i went too far, the female overhears this and leaves immediately as you would when you hear a suspect confessing to murder, they both left and year's later testified what went on that night, but they never mentioned that the day after that 'confession' they were both drinking with IB and JT in the pub again, would you?? It makes very interesting reading, a lot of the case was built on the personality of the main suspect, and the savage attacks he inflicted on his partner, but the Dpp report also says MF husband has been charged with assault multiple times, why was he never looked at ? On the whole I believe that IB was the convenient suspect, case closed, we have him no need to look anywhere else , witnesses coerced, evidence missing, its such a shame for Sophie and her family that the person who killed her will likely never be brought to justice
Caquas wrote: » An excellent point - why did the Gardai not look for the other person in the car with her that night? Her evidence, even taken at face value, was weak. She said she glimpsed a man in a black coat at night as she drove past and then, miraculously, she sees him again the next day and recognises him. If her male companion corroborated the sighting, it would have given it immense support to the only piece of evidence linking Bailey to the crime scene. But the Gardai didn’t bother finding him? Something stinks.
riddles wrote: » Based on Netflix it seems IB was was lot more familiar with her staying there than the sky doc. If the body wasn’t found till 10am what were the other people up the lane doing in the meantime. The behaviour on the morning of the crime of IB and the fact he went straight there is very incriminating as was his / their changing testimony with respect to stopping their car on the was home from the pub to notice lights on in a Lyons house.
unplayable wrote: » I believe the man in the car with MF that night was a local man who she was supposedly having an affair with and he is now dead. He was protected by the gardai for some reason.
Yurt! wrote: » 100% agree on MF, I'm not even going to go near if she did the deed or if she was involved in the deed, we can no more place her at the cottage than we can Bailey. However, there is something incredibly glaring about the Gardai not busting their gut trying to find the man in the car to corroborate her story. If they found him and he confirmed her sighting, it would have strengthened their case significantly. Her refusal to name him, giving the identity of two other men, then finally a deceased man should set alarm bells going. All is not with it seems with this sordid and sad case.
Shelga wrote: » I thought Marie Farrell’s account was that she was in the car on her own when she saw a man at the bridge? That she was on her way back from seeing this man. I could be wrong.
Around 3 am, while driving along this road, she noticed a person who, it seemed to her, resembled the strange-looking man she had noticed in Schull on the afternoon of Saturday, 21 December. This was at Airhill, beside Kealfadda bridge, close to where the body of Sophie du Plantier was to be found some hours later. She did not remark on this to the other person in the car at the time, probably because no significance then attached to the coincidence. She got home around 4.10 am on the morning of Monday, 23 December.
Creamy Goodness wrote: » That's the blue ford (think fiesta) with red reg plate that was a good topic of discussion a few pages back. I'm of the firm believe that whoever was driving that car has a lot more knowledge on this and it's awful nothing came of it.
Deeec wrote: » Nothing adds up about MF at all. I think she was at home in bed with her husband that night - I find it hard to believe she was having an affair. She was a mother of 5 and a shop owner - mammys and shop owners are busy in the days coming up to Christmas. The fact her husband has stayed with her speaks volumes that there was no other man. I do believe though she was used by the guards because they have some hold on her or seen she could be easily manipulated. She 100% knows more about the gardai involved in the case. She should have been jailed for her part in all of this. The fact she is still giving interviews considering the fool she made of herself is cringeing.
fin12 wrote: » Apparently he tried it on with one of Jules daughter and that’s another reason why the relationship ended along with her daughters refusing to visit her while that nutcase is still living there.
bb12 wrote: » there was a couple who were interested in buying the land off sophie, circa 13 acres. the woman kept her horses there and wanted to start a trekking business. they were brought in for questioning but nothing came of it.
Mr Sugar wrote: » Did anybody in the town back up MF's claims of dark coated beret wearing creep following a woman around? Surely at least one other person would have noticed this guy in the town and reported it....if he did actually exist.
Gussie Scrotch wrote: » "For a while she even feuded with her nearest neighbour over a shared gate that she felt should stay closed". The Observer, 12th March, 2000.
Deeec wrote: » The theory the gardai assumed for Bailey murdering Sophie seems to be that he was sexually rebuked by Sophie. There doesnt seem to be any evidence though that Bailey was a womaniser - Has any other women come forward supporting this theory?
bb12 wrote: » she said something which i thought was very telling in the cork west podcast. something along the lines of how she wished she could go back to being "just a bored housewife" before this all happened...i'm starting to think that is exactly all she was and that it was all completely made up by her. she probably made the first phonecall as somewhat of a laugh but then things hotted up and got so out of control completely. i think everything she says needs to be completely disregarded from the investigation. everything out of her mouth should be confined to the dust heap.
mioniqa wrote: » Or maybe it was her husband with her in the car? I read he has been arrested for assault twice apparently.
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