kirving wrote: » "Before" what time? If you could tell me what time on Tuesday the bin truck will call around, I'll arrange some time off work so I can drive home and stand there and guard the bin in case they're late. I know people tend to be righteous on Boards, but that's another level entirely. 95% of people put the bins out the night before, and shouldn't be targeted because someone thought it was a laugh to kick a box down the road. You know, common sense.
tscul32 wrote: » One of the bin companies here regularly comes by at 7am on a Saturday morning. Don't think there are too many who want to have to get up at 6.45am every Saturday to put out the bins.
1874 wrote: » No its not, this country is blighted with litter, from selfish morons who cant be arsed to do the bare minimum, and dispose of their own rubbish. Its simply not a case of pegging it out into the street the night before and hope it gets taken and then wonder 20 years on what they could have done or be expected to do, its your rubbish, sort it out. The collection service I have, has it listed to put out at the side of the road before or by a certain time that morning, I just have it ready to go and wheel it out that morning I couldnt possibly know what your collection service wants, you should look it up yourself, you cant even manage that! I wedge the bin up against the kerb so it doesnt get blown over as easily. There are ways in which waste collection could make it easier/better, but most people are going to be lazy/selfish about it.
Uncle Pierre wrote: » This is probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP's post, but I remember once getting a littering fine myself while I lived in Dublin some 20 years ago. It was in respect of a large cardboard box that had my name and address on a label attached. I'd put it out late one night for collection early the following morning, same as I always did with my rubbish/recycling at the time. It was gone the next morning all right, but about two weeks later I received a fine, stating it had been found a couple of streets away. I've always presumed it was moved by some drunken eejits on their way home, who maybe played games with it along the way, or something. I appealed the fine at the time by setting out in writing the circumstances of what had happened. The appeal was denied on the grounds that I was still responsible for it until time of actual collection. I then reluctantly paid the fine. I still don't know what they actually expected me to do. It seems I'd be supposed to either stand guard over it all night, or else get up around 5 a.m. to put stuff out just as the collection lorry was arriving. As I say, probably neither here nor there in respect of the OP, but could be one explanation why the mother is reluctant to pay the fine, if something similar happened to her.
HalfAndHalf wrote: » You put your bin in the road?
1874 wrote: » In the road, no? at the side of the road, yes, thats where they ask for it to be left, and for the most part that's where people leave them. Why? possibly to prevent bins tipping over? I don't know, most likely it makes it easier for them to collect and place on the truck for emptying.
HalfAndHalf wrote: » So on the pavement so. I’m not sure I follow how you wedge it up against the curb as the curb is the same level as the pavement.
1874 wrote: » Well I have no clue who that bin service is?? I dont know what is in their T&Cs? I dont think a saturday is a great day for bin collections, maybe everyone could sign up for another service provider so they dont have to get up on Sat mornings. If they dont like it, they could, not sign up for that service, if no alternative, its a small price to pay, There is a good episode on the Simpsons, I thought it was a bit of a joke and a poor episode, but in reality, it seems it was highlighting just how lazy and selfish some/many people are willing to be about their waste/rubbish.
1874 wrote: » its your rubbish, sort it out. The collection service I have, has it listed to put out at the side of the road before or by a certain time that morning, I just have it ready to go and wheel it out that morning....
1874 wrote: » Its pretty clear, anyway, why is it relevant? I pay to dispose of my rubbish, I makes sure it doesn't get strewn all over the neighbourhood, I follow the conditions of the service provider, I have something of a legacy account with them, although they keep edging up the charges, I found if you are sensible about it, you rarely have to put a bin out, 1 grey bin a month-6weeks, 1 green bin every 2 months, if you rinse and squash item, the bin wont cause odours, compost as much as possible then what ever is left over is in the brown bin. It requires a bit, but I consider minimal effort. The state of anywhere in this country you care to look, rubbish/litter strewn everywhere, Id say its an embarrassment and down to laziness/selfishness. Glad to see some Council somewhere is giving out fines, its a fraction of whats going on. Some of the worst I saw, was someone firing rubbish and by the look of it some nappies out a car window, while crossing a canal. Another person emptying a load of cigarette butts and a host of other rubbish as they waited on their takeaway, I dont really understand when I see people just throw rubbish/wrappers/whatever away as they walk along??? beggars belief.
HalfAndHalf wrote: » Jaysus ok buddie, I was only asking a question, no need to get so wrecked about it. It obviously isn’t clear how you’d wedge a bin against a curb unless your curbs are higher than your pavement. Which they’re not. But forget it, I can’t bear the stress I’m putting you under.
1874 wrote: » wtf? Im not stressed, sound like you are. I just think its fairly despicable that grown adults think its ok to litter, shure someone else will clean it up mentality, it is widespread in this Country. Good to hear some fines are being handed out, tip of the iceberg though.
1874 wrote: » ?? beggars belief, yep, you are not meant to leave stuff out all night, so its only meant to be out from before when they are collecting it.
Victor wrote: » The bye-laws in Dublin City say that residents can leave out their bin from 5pm the previous day. I imagine other bye-laws are similar.
1874 wrote: » I checked and my council bye law says 8pm, although I read somewhere in T&Cs by my service provider, no earlier than a certain time on the day. Someone seemed up in arms about it, the bye law also refers to kerbside collection. A lot of people do put their bins out the night before, which shouldnt be a problem unless there is weather thats likely to blow bins over. It would be useful if bins were all a standard design and had a basic latch mechanism that was operated when the bin was lifted, to open the lid, so if bins get blown over they dont spill their contents. Anyway, this thread was about paying fines, either for blatant or negligent littering, not bins.
HalfAndHalf wrote: » Gotta wonder why you brought up bins then. Yer man mentioned a cardboard box and you went into one about bins and curbs and wind and not overnight etc etc. LOL.
longgonesilver wrote: » Remember to close your lids!https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40328084.html
General Toilet wrote: » They will all get a letter from the council.
General Toilet wrote: » Not the case.
General Toilet wrote: » Say I as a council litter warden find a box with 3 letters inside for different people, how do I know who is responsible? 3 letters would be sent as the perpetrator is not known. Standard practice.
Pinoy adventure wrote: » So the fine would be paid 3 times ? The fine is €150,so once 1 person pays the fine would the other 2 still be chased too pay the fine too ?
brian_t wrote: » Your Mother is responsible for making sure that letters addressed to her don't end up as litter. The other two individuals are equally responsible for making sure that letters addressed to them don't end up as litter. It appears that there were three identifiable people responsible for the littering.
Dodge wrote: » Just on this. A letter I was sent was mistakenly delivered to a house 4 doors down. They had rubbish out their front but I was fined as my name and address were on a letter found in their yard I contacted the council and showed a record of my bin collections to show it was collected every week (including the weight so show it wasn’t full every week) and argued that I had no reason to litter I got a letter back to say they had rescinded the fine
