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Never let me hear about kerry hospitality services again

[Deleted User]

OK, I know, a click bait heading.

I never want to hear kerry hospitality services moaning about lost customers.

Took a few day trips this week with the family. Went to Clare and today to South kerry.

When I asked the person serving ice cream cones to not handle the cone I was going to eat,all I got was abuse. From him and his boss.

I was apparently being unreasonable asking he pick up the cone with a tissue rather than his bare hands.
The sanitiser he was adamant he had just used (he didn't) he couldn't find.

Went onto another establishment later hoping to get a meal.

Nope, don't serve kids after 5.30 from the restaurant. I was told to go around the corner to their pizza bar which had seats on the street. I couldn't even bring the pizza around to the restaurant outside seating area while my wife and I ate a meal. My kids didn't want pizza.

Anyway, took my business elsewhere and went to the local pub.

Granted seats were on the street. Beer garden was being renovated.

They had a kids menu. My son wanted a burger which was only on the adults menu. To their credit, it wasn't a problem. He got his burger and chips with all the dressings for the kids price.
The adults had a lovely lasagne with salad and garlic bread.

And kerry hospitality businesses are moaning they have no customers. If this is how 2/3 of them treat their customers they don't deserve to be in business
(size of the survey was 3. +/- 0)
Anyway, rant over.

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DJB030244

wpd wrote: »

Try to save my money and go away to Spain or Portugal rather than holiday in Ireland
Find it expensive and unless you drink, very boring

would prefer to stay in my back garden than holiday in Kerry.

Are you that famous grumpy guy that didn’t like St Patrick’s day with the yanks ?!

https://youtu.be/0Z-dbFhQBmQ

Sam Hain

John_Rambo wrote: »

This is the case with my kids, where I'm from & my peers kids. Maybe where you're from kids can't behave themselves, or maybe it's the type of eatery you're frequenting.

No kids after a certain time should be the excepted normal in any proper dining establishment, be it pub or restaurant. It provides an improved ambience, no extra menus needed, less unslightly food spillages and mess and a less likely incident of accidents and possibly increased sales for the establishment. Most reasonable adults would understand this.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was hoping for some bit of culture, the odd museum, things to see and do. Apart from a day in Barcelona it was grim. And ugly, a procession of seaside towns with apartments full of boozed up Brits and Irish in sports shirts drinking. It was cheap enough, I just never went back.

You need to try Portugal. Much friendlier than Spain and loads to do and see
Or even Slovakia. An amazing country and mountains that put the reeks into the halfpenny place. Even my wife's village is higher than carrauntoohil.

[Deleted User]

SouthWesterly wrote: »

Or even Slovakia. An amazing country and mountains that put the reeks into the halfpenny place. Even my wife's village is higher than carrauntoohil.

Oh would love to go to Slovakia alright, have been to the Czech Republic, Austria, Croatia and Bosnia and really liked all of them. And have lots of Slovakian friends who lived here in Kerry during the mid 00s, some of them from the Tatras, so have been to plenty of parties with egg salad with slivovica or red wine and cola...

dobman88

Heading to Killarney in the morning. Will go to 3 places and hope for the best.

John_Rambo

Sam Hain wrote: »

No kids after a certain time should be the excepted normal in any proper dining establishment, be it pub or restaurant. It provides an improved ambience, no extra menus needed, less unslightly food spillages and mess and a less likely incident of accidents and possibly increased sales for the establishment. Most reasonable adults would understand this.

No kids after 8.30pm in a fine dining adult basted establishment would be understandable.
No kids after 9pm in a gastro pub is understandable.
No kids allowed in a hard drinking pub should be encouraged.

There's no extra menus needed anywhere, there's just kids meals at the bottom of the regular menu. Any "proper" dining establishments that I work with are professionally trained & capable of catering for families throughout the dining service, if they aren't they're simply incapable, not up to speed, penny pinching or gouging. An incredulous 5.30pm stop on family service is unreasonable and an obvious gouger.

Most reasonable children would understand this, let alone adults.

Sam Hain

John_Rambo wrote: »

No kids after 8.30pm in a fine dining adult basted establishment would be understandable.
No kids after 9pm in a gastro pub is understandable.
No kids allowed in a hard drinking pub should be encouraged.

There's no extra menus needed anywhere, there's just kids meals at the bottom of the regular menu. Any "proper" dining establishments that I work with are professionally trained & capable of catering for families throughout the dining service, if they aren't they're simply incapable, not up to speed, penny pinching or gouging. An incredulous 5.30pm stop on family service is unreasonable and an obvious gouger.

Most reasonable children would understand this, let alone adults.

8:30 and 9pm, thats laughable.. And if an establishment doesn't sing from your hymn sheet, you imply they are incapable of good service.
And you keep bandying about the term gouger without any reason or evidence. Simpleton behaviour and attitudes to the fore.

dobman88

dobman88 wrote: »

Heading to Killarney in the morning. Will go to 3 places and hope for the best.

Been to 2 places so far and I'm shocked to say we have been extremely well looked after. The 3rd place is bound to be a complete disaster now.

tipptom

Sam Hain wrote: »

8:30 and 9pm, thats laughable.. And if an establishment doesn't sing from your hymn sheet, you imply they are incapable of good service.
And you keep bandying about the term gouger without any reason or evidence. Simpleton behaviour and attitudes to the fore.

5.30 is way to early to shut of a restaurant for kids.

Especially during these times with the goverment spending fortunes trying to encourage Irish familys to stay in Ireland instead of going abroad and help out stricken Irish hotels and restaurants to recover.

Familys are just getting back from a day out sightseeing and a restaurant is effectivly closed off to them at 5.30.

These are the type of buisnesses that you struggle to have sympathy for when they are crying about losing buissness.

If you are employing this policy then 7.30 should be the cut off and even at that these are exceptional times for familys where they have decided to don the green jersey and holidayed here instead of more family friendly cheaper foreign countries involved in tourism,and i say that as someone who has a low tolerence towards badly behaved children in restaurants.

As for the pig who wouldnt even put a bit of kitchen towel around the cone,he should be reported because this is standard hygeine practise, even outside of a pandemic and the people on here who profess to be involved in the industry and calling the OP an "awkward customer" tells you a lot about them and some of the people involved in the industry.

John_Rambo

Sam Hain wrote: »

8:30 and 9pm, thats laughable..

Depending on the type of establishment it's not laughable at all. The last thing you want is kids in a pub after 9pm if it's a purely drinking pub.

Sam Hain wrote: »

And if an establishment doesn't sing from your hymn sheet, you imply they are incapable of good service.

If an establishment in a family tourist area isn't capable of serving families they're either incapable or gouging.

Sam Hain wrote: »

And you keep bandying about the term gouger without any reason or evidence. Simpleton behaviour and attitudes to the fore.

I have all the evidence I need. Again, if an establishment in a family tourist area isn't capable of serving tourists with families after a ridiculous 5.30pm time they're obviously incapable or more likely gouging. What other excuse do they have? None.

embraer170

John_Rambo wrote: »

No kids after 8.30pm in a fine dining adult basted establishment would be understandable.
No kids after 9pm in a gastro pub is understandable.
No kids allowed in a hard drinking pub should be encouraged.

There's no extra menus needed anywhere, there's just kids meals at the bottom of the regular menu. Any "proper" dining establishments that I work with are professionally trained & capable of catering for families throughout the dining service, if they aren't they're simply incapable, not up to speed, penny pinching or gouging. An incredulous 5.30pm stop on family service is unreasonable and an obvious gouger.

Most reasonable children would understand this, let alone adults.

We’ve done some Michelin star restaurants in Spain and Germany with a child (probably first time at the age of 3-4). Never had any problem or made felt awkward in any way.

I do find that find that dining and drinking in Ireland with kids can sometimes be made awkward in a way I haven’t seen in other places.

embraer170

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It has to be said, for all the talk about Kenmare, Killarney and Dingle as culinary capitals, the fact that Kerry has not has a Michelin starred restaurant since the 90s is pretty striking. Of course, it's not the be all and end all, but it's certainly one pointer when it comes to fine dining and service. By contrast, Cork has 4.

Was there not a Michelin star place in Dingle until a few years ago. I seem to recall it was a French chef who specialised in local produce with some foraging etc. Or maybe I am remembering wrongly and it was a Bib Gourmand?

I saw that Giovannelli‘s in Killorglin’s seems to be gone (place cleared out). It had a decent reputation so I wonder what happened.

John_Rambo

embraer170 wrote: »

I do find that find that dining and drinking in Ireland with kids can sometimes be made awkward in a way I haven’t seen in other places.

It's an old fashioned attitude upheld by uncultured people who feel kids shouldn't be on Ryanair flights (buses with wings) or restaurants & who think taking a flight or eating out is a once a year occasion, equitable to going to the opera.

Fortunately it's waning now and restaurants in Ireland are frequently becoming more European & family friendly.

The DayDream

And people wonder why service industry workers would rather stay on the PUP than go back to work and deal with Karens like this getting their knickers in a twist over someone touching their fkin ice cream cone.

embraer170

The DayDream wrote: »

And people wonder why service industry workers would rather stay on the PUP than go back to work and deal with Karens like this getting their knickers in a twist over someone touching their fkin ice cream cone.

It is actually in HSE food service guidelines. Ice cream cones should not be handled with bare hands. I assume it is because in many cases it will the same person preparing the ice cream and processing the payment.

byhookorbycrook

We holiday in Dingle each year . It’s as expensive as you want to make it ! Plenty deals to be had and lots of things that are free to do.

Ciarrai76

The DayDream wrote: »

And people wonder why service industry workers would rather stay on the PUP than go back to work and deal with Karens like this getting their knickers in a twist over someone touching their fkin ice cream cone.

Nothing to do with being a 'Karen', its unhygienic! People have the right to find things like that disgusting without being accused of being called (the most overused term) a 'Karen'!

byhookorbycrook

BPKS wrote: »

Had to laugh at this.

People here complaining about high prices in Kerry are now bemoaning the fact that there are no restaurants in Kerry where you won't get much change out of €300 for a meal for two.

€300? Where ? We eat out in Dingle quite a lot and don’t stint on the menu choices and drinks , but have never paid anything close to that . Can you name the restaurants you have paid this kind of price in ?

Tilikum17

Just spent the last two days in Killarney. I’ve never seen anything like the bar staff/waitressing. Absolutely horrendous. I thought London was ****e.

The bars are so bad that when they’d eventually come to take your order I’d get two pints at a time. It wasn’t for lack of staff either. Even trying to pay a bill. I had to ask in one place 3 times for the bill.

We had breakfast yesterday morning in “the shire” lovely looking place tbf. 50 minutes after sitting down our breakfast arrived. The place was half empty at that stage. The lady says “so sorry the wait, you won’t be charged for your coffees, would you like another? Herself says “yes please” The coffee never arrived. Surely to God you make sure that customer is sorted after all that - no.

I genuinely never complain anywhere. I just put up with it but I had to let people know just how bad the service is.

Killarney is beautiful though. We had dinner in “Rob’s Ranch” the 2nd night. That was excellent but every other bar/restaurant was shocking.

fits

embraer170 wrote: »

Was there not a Michelin star place in Dingle until a few years ago. I seem to recall it was a French chef who specialised in local produce with some foraging etc. Or maybe I am remembering wrongly and it was a Bib Gourmand?

I saw that Giovannelli‘s in Killorglin’s seems to be gone (place cleared out). It had a decent reputation so I wonder what happened.

I’m trying to remember the name of that brilliant restaurant in Dingle. Had one of the best meals of my life in it. It didn’t have a star. They opened two years too early I’d say. Would be flying now. And was definitely a candidate for a star

I go to Dingle at least twice a year and have done so all my life. It is expensive now if you want to eat out every night but there are some very good restaurants. We don’t really eat out often so don’t pay too much attention to price when we do.

lawrencesummers

fits wrote: »

I’m trying to remember the name of that brilliant restaurant in Dingle. Had one of the best meals of my life in it. It didn’t have a star. They opened two years too early I’d say. Would be flying now. And was definitely a candidate for a star

I go to Dingle at least twice a year and have done so all my life. It is expensive now if you want to eat out every night but there are some very good restaurants. We don’t really eat out often so don’t pay too much attention to price when we do.

Global village?
Or the shack down by the marina?

fits

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Global village?
Or the shack down by the marina?

Neither. It’s not open anymore.

fits

Idás it was called.

embraer170

fits wrote: »

Idás it was called.

Yes, that was it! I had a thoroughly good meal there one December evening. The only shame is the place was absolutely freezing.

dobman88

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Just spent the last two days in Killarney. I’ve never seen anything like the bar staff/waitressing. Absolutely horrendous. I thought London was ****e.

The bars are so bad that when they’d eventually come to take your order I’d get two pints at a time. It wasn’t for lack of staff either. Even trying to pay a bill. I had to ask in one place 3 times for the bill.

We had breakfast yesterday morning in “the shire” lovely looking place tbf. 50 minutes after sitting down our breakfast arrived. The place was half empty at that stage. The lady says “so sorry the wait, you won’t be charged for your coffees, would you like another? Herself says “yes please” The coffee never arrived. Surely to God you make sure that customer is sorted after all that - no.

I genuinely never complain anywhere. I just put up with it but I had to let people know just how bad the service is.

Killarney is beautiful though. We had dinner in “Rob’s Ranch” the 2nd night. That was excellent but every other bar/restaurant was shocking.

The shire would be known for being sloppy enough locally from what I've heard. It's like it tries to be several things, pub, cafe, "gastropub", take out service, etc and it's a failure because they are trying too much in a tiny space and you have better options for all those things a short walk from there.

Must say, apart from a slower service during the match which was to be expected yesterday, I've had the polar opposite experience to you. Couldnt find fault anywhere we went and I was looking for faults after reading this thread. We must just be lucky.

[Deleted User]

The DayDream wrote: »

And people wonder why service industry workers would rather stay on the PUP than go back to work and deal with Karens like this getting their knickers in a twist over someone touching their fkin ice cream cone.

If someone can't figure out how to put a napkin around a cone when they have handled money they have absolutely no business being in the service industry. It's not some extraordinary request that requires highly specialised knowledge or expertise to address.

BPKS

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

€300? Where ? We eat out in Dingle quite a lot and don’t stint on the menu choices and drinks , but have never paid anything close to that . Can you name the restaurants you have paid this kind of price in ?

The general theme of the thread was that Kerry is a rip off.

Then some of the same people giving out that Kerry was a rip off were bemoaning that there are no Michilin restaurants in Kerry.

Which was why I responded as I did.

We - 5 adults - get fed and found in Killarney or Dingle when we are there for the day - main course and a drink - for around €110.

[Deleted User]

BPKS wrote: »

Then some of the same people giving out that Kerry was a rip off were bemoaning that there are no Michilin restaurants in Kerry

I would have thought the distinction was obvious. But I'm happy to explain.

Michelin starred restaurants charge more because the food and service is deemed particularly good.

Not because the food and service isn't that good but you're looking at mountains.

Let's not pretend there is some contradiction when the explanation is blindingly obvious.

sheesh

wow people really hate kerry.

dobman88

sheesh wrote: »

wow people really hate kerry.

Yet they all go there for a break away and complain like there are no other choices in the country :rolleyes: