clsmooth wrote: » Ryan Baird is no where near 120kg at the moment. I’d also argue that he’d probably lose his best asset (athleticism) if he was 120kg+. I doubt Coombes will ever hit 130kg either.
DonVito wrote: » I wonder what the likes of Hume and Balacoune think when they see the likes of Farrell and Daly on the team sheet. They absolutely smoke those lads at club level but somehow they sit behind them internationally. Shane Daly..... it’s like Sam Coghlan Murray being on the bench. Waste of time. Farrell has been extremely disappointing in his selections during the 6 nations and now this too.
TRC10 wrote: » He's been Ulster's 1st choice 13 for 2 full seasons.
TRC10 wrote: » Hume can play 12, 13 and wing. Saying he's too inexperienced is just classic Irish conservatism. He's been Ulster's 1st choice 13 for 2 full seasons. He's started Pro14 finals, he's started H Cup games. He's far more experienced than Kelleher, Doris or Keenan were when they made their debuts.
shootermacg wrote: » Both around 1.98M, so plenty of room for it. I'd say it's only a matter of time before they fill out, so say around 26 will be when they hit their optimal weight.
Cian Healy's weight as a professional rugby player has varied from 97kg when making his Leinster debut 13 years ago up to 127kg at the 2015 World Cup. The loosehead prop has adapted his weight through the years to the requirements of the sport. "Throughout it, I've had wild changes," Healy told Marie Crowe as part of McSport's My Motivation interview series. "I started professionally with Leinster and I was 97kg. That's incredibly light for my position and that was a big problem at the start. Michael Cheika just threw me in and said, 'You have to deal with it and you have to work on getting your weight up as well'. "I've also gone up to the other end: In 2015, for the World Cup, I was 127kg. It's a pretty big scale to be swinging on. When I was 127kg, it was like trying to turn a bus. The lighter you get, the small the car gets. It's easier to move, get around and react when I'm a bit lighter. I felt awful running around. I felt like I was constantly chasing the game, never ahead of myself." The Ireland international now plays at around 110kg - 113kg due to the increased fitness demands on the pitch. "I think that's a pretty good fighting weight to be able to get around the park easily and be able to do my main job as best as possible", he said. Advertisement "I've tested the water at all different weights. I've bulked up to that (127kg) and I did a season or two around 118kg, 119kg and I was pretty fit and quick around that. "In the last two seasons, I've dropped it down again just to try and boost that fitness side of it a bit more than the strength side of it. I'm pretty happy with where the strength is at, at that weight. "I'm definitely adapting my weight now to how the game has gone. There's less of running start at scrums now - they're more controlled. "Fitness has become way more important; there are less stops in a game, more ball in play time. For me to be the best asset to the team that I can, I'm shedding off a few more kilos and working more on fitness."
shootermacg wrote: » Yeah but Ulster are pretty crap though
molloyjh wrote: » Hume only covers centre so if he's on the bench then we either have no cover with at 10 or in the back 3. At least Larmour offers cover at 13 and 15 which would give scope to include Balacoune. As for the centres, it was the only realistic selection. With Henshaw, Aki, Ringrose and Addison all unavailable our options were basically non-existent. Hume is too inexperienced to start his first game against a very decent Japan. I agree re Ryan.
clsmooth wrote: » It’s not all about weight. Look at Cian Healy as an example who got back to form after shedding a load of weight (I’m aware he had a serious nerve injury too at the time but see how he describes always chasing the game)
clsmooth wrote: » Ryan Baird is no where near 120kg at the moment. I’d also argue that he’d probably lose his best asset (athleticism) if he was 120kg+. I doubt Coombes will ever hit 130kg either. Or 120kg at that. He’s a big lump but not that big.
molloyjh wrote: » Hes also playing in a fairly pivotal defensive position against a very good attacking side. Kellehers debut came off the bench, an option not really available to an out and out centre (and he is an out and out centre) Keenans came on the wing against a very poor Italy, which is a far more forgiving position against far more forgiving opposition. Doris is a but of a freak athlete. Hume is not.But by all means, throw around accusations of conservatism because I don't agree with every word you say. There's no need to make any effort to understand other perspectives on a discussion forum. No sir.
TRC10 wrote: » Well I guess Munster are crap too seen as they finished level on points last season and both lost at home to Toulouse
shootermacg wrote: » I'll just leave this here
TRC10 wrote: » A home win in a post season friendly. Well done. Anyway, clearly my point went right over your head. I wasn't saying Munster are crap. No need to be so defensive.
briandebum wrote: » Lets be honest, USA are probably not much better than a good club side, are we going to learn much from playing Hume against them? Is test rugby so dramatically different a sport from club rugby that Hume (Who has played rugby all his life.) will be completely at sea vs the Japanese in a meaningless friendly with no fans in the stadium? Even if it does go wrong and we lose, who gives a ****e? I'm sure he can "take some learnings from the match" and become a better player? He's not going to crumble as a player. Farrell is a solid club player, playing him in this match is a waste of time. We have data on him and know what he can offer. The reason I've quoted this is that come the 6 nations, we are likely to hear the same excuse as to why we can't start Hume or Balacoune or any other young player.
shootermacg wrote: » Sorry mate, just having a little fun with you
AdamD wrote: » My only complaint is Farrell. Really don't see what's hes done to deserve being in the Irish squad at this stage. Hume would be fine for his debut, one club mate inside him and another outside him.
AdamD wrote: » My only complaint is Farrell. Really don't see what's hes done to deserve being in the Irish squad at this stage.
TRC10 wrote: » A home win in a post season friendly. Well done.
razorblunt wrote: » Yep, absolutely no way they're hitting 130kg, that's obscene. Coombes must be somewhere around 115-118kg is he? Baird is taller so has the capacity to get close to 120kg for sure.
TRC10 wrote: » He's 2 years older and not as good as Baloucoune. He has more appearances because he's older. So what if he's versatile? It's a one off summer test, and there's enough versatility so sort it out if someone gets injured. Larmour or Carbery can go to 15 and Larmour can cover 13.
nerd69 wrote: » 8 months older it's less a shot on baloucoune Im a big fan of his it's a matter of time for him imo I just don't understand how you see Daly as having a low ceiling
TRC10 wrote: » Baloucoune's strike rate is also considerably better. 16 in 31, to Daly's 6 in 32. I know it isn't everything but it is important for a winger.
aloooof wrote: » Daly has played a fair chunk of those at Full-back as well.
Jump_In_Jack wrote: » Coombes is listed at 6'6" and 110kg Baird is listed at 6'6" and 112kg How correct that is I couldn't be sure.
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