FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3

markodaly wrote: »

LOL, just lol.

You have burnt through a few keyboards the past few months yourself, giving out about the lack of solid and unified communication from the government, yet you are quick then to give out about any attempts to improve communications as a 'vanity' project.

I guess good communication in a pandemic is a vanity project alright! :P:P:P:rolleyes:

Why was it shelved if it was that 'good'?

There hasn't been good communication and the SCU would not, even with its budget, have been able to gloss over why. Incompetence and jostling egos.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why wouldn't they give out about an expensive vanity project with taxpayers money? If they SCU was the right thing to do they wouldn't have got rid of it.

LOL, just lol.

You have burnt through a few keyboards the past few months yourself, giving out about the lack of solid and unified communication from the government, yet you are quick then to give out about any attempts to improve communications as a 'vanity' project.

I guess good communication in a pandemic is a vanity project alright! :P:P:P:rolleyes:

Floppybits

votecounts wrote: »

This guy is a Genius:D

https://twitter.com/ChloeOh___/status/1410238442550792196

Ah yeah but you see he is not SF so that's OK.

votecounts

This guy is a Genius:D

https://twitter.com/ChloeOh___/status/1410238442550792196

Fann Linn wrote: »

Good man Blanch. Seeing no issue with FFG shutting down society on a whim. And blaming the CMO at the same time.

What a silly post.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0701/1232422-who-covid-spread/

"The World Health Organization (WHO) has said Covid cases were on the rise again in Europe after two months of decline and warned a new wave would come "unless we remain disciplined.""

So we have NPHET, WHO and the Government on the one side urging caution, and we have SF and others wanting unvaccinated young people to be able to drink indoors on the other. Stunning behaviour from them. Oh, and Alan Kelly who has forgotten his previous Zero Covid stance.

"Kluge said that the average vaccine coverage in the WHO's European region was 24%, and half of elderly people and 40% of healthcare workers were still unprotected."

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0701/1232408-covid-blog/

"HSE CEO @paulreiddublin says 67% of the population have been given a first dose of Covid-19 vaccination, and 45% are fully vaccinated."

Looks like we are performing well above the EU average there, too.

So it seems that the clear unequivocal medical advice is get people vaccinated as quickly as possible and be careful on lifting measures, and this is what the Government is doing.

But sure, the communications should be better, but if you ask me, I prefer to be alive with bad communications than dead and being efficiently told I am gone!!!

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

In the middle of a pandemic and people are focussing on who said what about communions and confirmations. Only in Ireland......

This from the poster who would start a thread if some unknown shinner so much as farted. Never change blanch, you're great for shîts and giggles.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Michael under questioning and in order not to answer the question, says 'I am not going to breech cabinet confidentiality'.

The cabinet meetings of FG or FF have better outside coverage than the All Ireland final ffs.

And Leo digging in on his lie saying the christenings etc were never going ahead anyway and the Primate of All Ireland having a letter in front of him from the Taoiseach's office stating the complete opposite.

You couldn't make this sh1t up.

Michael under questioning and in order not to answer the question, says 'I am not going to breech cabinet confidentiality'.

The cabinet meetings of FG or FF have better outside coverage than the All Ireland final ffs.

Floppybits

Fann Linn wrote: »

Good man Blanch. Seeing no issue with FFG shutting down society on a whim. And blaming the CMO at the same time.

Would you expect anything else? But I bet it would the opposite position if it was not an FFG government.

blanch152 wrote: »

In the middle of a pandemic and people are focussing on who said what about communions and confirmations. Only in Ireland......

Good man Blanch. Seeing no issue with FFG shutting down society on a whim. And blaming the CMO at the same time.

Fann Linn wrote: »

Leo the Liar getting called out by Verona Murphy in relation to locking down of Christenings, Communions etc.

Holohan stated quite definitely that he did not recommend this despite Leo saying he did only earlier.

In the middle of a pandemic and people are focussing on who said what about communions and confirmations. Only in Ireland......

Leo the Liar getting called out by Verona Murphy in relation to locking down of Christenings, Communions etc.

Holohan stated quite definitely that he did not recommend this despite Leo saying he did only earlier.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why wouldn't they give out about an expensive vanity project with taxpayers money? If they SCU was the right thing to do they wouldn't have got rid of it.

Of course, getting rid of the SCU was the wrong thing. The communications issues we have seen since then, which you have been so critical of, are the result of that decision.

It is clear now that the SCU prevented communications problems like we are seeing now. As the biggest critic of the government's current communications issue, you must be able to se that. I am sure that you are grateful that you were a strong supporter of the SCU and that it can't be shown that your opinions swing in the wind of whatever direction SF are heading.

What is interesting though, is that criticism is limited to communications issues. While communications are important, in a pandemic it is much more important to get the substantive issues right, so I am sure you support the delay to indoor dining.

markodaly wrote: »

This.

Plenty of the same posters giving out about lack of communication were the very ones giving out about the SCU.

Oh the irony.

Why wouldn't they give out about an expensive vanity project with taxpayers money? If they SCU was the right thing to do they wouldn't have got rid of it.

markodaly wrote: »

This.

Plenty of the same posters giving out about lack of communication were the very ones giving out about the SCU.

Oh the irony.

Lol. Touting work now for Terry Prone? Govt ministers including Donnelly have enough spin doctors working for them.

Wasn't she the one who wanted no questions raised?

Calhoun

Indeed because when you look for political leadership really what the public are saying they want to pay an expensive PR team or non at all.

The people want the leaders they elect to work as a cohesive team which is evidently not happening.

markodaly

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

If only the Government had some sort of...Strategic Communications Unit...or something

This.

Plenty of the same posters giving out about lack of communication were the very ones giving out about the SCU.

Oh the irony.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I am not criticising the government for delaying the re-opening.

You are.

You can sugarcoat it all you want, but we all know that if the government opened up and the Delta variant took hold, which resulted in more people getting sick and dying, you would be the very very first person hitting the keyboards and giving out about the government.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ructions within FG and FF according to the usual leaks. Chaos resumes.

And ructions between Nphet and Govt. MM told the govt that vaccine rollouts were included in Tuesdays meeting with CMO re data analysis.

Today, CMO tells the opposition that vaccine rollouts were not included in data analysis.
One of the two clowns above is not fit for Office.
Govt of Chaos strikes again.

Ructions within FG and FF according to the usual leaks. Chaos resumes.

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Marc McSharry not holding back

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1410318312920305665

'problems with communications'?

At least the penny has dropped in some of FF if not among those here.

jammiedodgers

Marc McSharry not holding back

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1410318312920305665

Cluedo Monopoly

Fann Linn wrote: »

'Doing it on the fly, not knowing his brief, poor communication despite having advisors, not listening to others, blaming it on Holohan... :

Some of the random comments thrown at FFG this evening by one of their own

Not having a plan was always the plan according to some.

But don't worry, the government have just set up a 'working group'

Fann Linn wrote: »

'Doing it on the fly, not knowing his brief, poor communication despite having advisors, not listening to others, blaming it on Holohan... :

Some of the random comments thrown at FFG this evening by one of their own.

Pretty much sums it up. How perceptive of the FGer. There's hope yet.

Shebean

Fann Linn wrote: »

'Doing it on the fly, not knowing his brief, poor communication despite having advisors, not listening to others, blaming it on Holohan... :

Some of the random comments thrown at FFG this evening by one of their own.

Playing hot potato with responsibility.

Shebean

blanch152 wrote: »

Except variants and viruses don't follow that kind of schedule, but sure you know that.

You aren't making any sense.

You set a re-opening date and a few weeks before have a deadline to decide whether it goes ahead or not.
On that deadline you assess and make a decision. Very straightforward.
Accountable and responsible basic planning.

blanch152 wrote: »

Except variants and viruses don't follow that kind of schedule, but sure you know that.

'Doing it on the fly, not knowing his brief, poor communication despite having advisors, not listening to others, blaming it on Holohan... :

Some of the random comments thrown at FFG this evening by one of their own

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Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

You didn't even mention the word oblique

Leo was asked why he wasn't sharing info with the opposition (as per Shortall comments). Leo said they do brief the opposition but then admitted when questioned further that the last time was many months ago. It was December!

Listen back. He was flapping.

I heard the interview live, your view of it differs to mine
Anyway, all the opposition are in with Holahan now
Let's see if that softens their cough