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ec18

Hi,

Just wondering has anyone ever gone on a lions tour with a package company?
or can recommend one?

Ec

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topdecko

No way he can return from a dislocated shoulder for this tour...surely that is not possible. seems like clickbait from the Telegraph.

Neil3030

TRC10 wrote: »

Big vote of confidence in Murray from Gatland right there haha

Yes. Shame Twitter cropped the rest of the quote, where Gatland went on to admit the sole reason he wants AWJ back is his lack of faith in Conor Murray.

TRC10

Big vote of confidence in Murray from Gatland right there haha

yerrahbah

Would be some story

https://twitter.com/TelegraphSport/status/1410712549730000900

fitz

pickarooney wrote: »

Real lowest common denominator stuff

You'd think mods would screen these kind of posts.

pickarooney

Sangre wrote: »

Suspect you'll get a poor reception to that joke.

Real lowest common denominator stuff

TRC10

Not a great look for the game at all, LCD playing a week after being knocked out cold for a considerable period.

Especially in the current climate.

Podge_irl

MarVeL wrote: »

LCD was out cold for a while in the premiership final. Very surprised to see he made the team for this match, was thinking maybe the next one

I'm super surprised. He was out cold for a solid period.

Sangre

swiwi_ wrote: »

Dunno. But we can surely expect a sharp display.

Suspect you'll get a poor reception to that joke.

swiwi_

sydthebeat wrote: »

who was it that was saying LCD was injured????

Dunno. But we can surely expect a sharp display.

TRC10

starkid wrote: »

oh great a lions game with no Irish players starting.

I see 15 Lions starting.

It's a coincidence. There's huge rotation in the first 3 games. All of our lads started last week and he changed the full XV bar 1. So naturally, none of them will be starting this week.

starkid

oh great a lions game with no Irish players starting.

crisco10

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

A reminder the €15 sky sports monthly pass in Now ends tonight. Use code SPMUNOWQAXWD

I'll cancel it towards end of July to be offered another cheap rate for the remainder of the tour.

Gets you access to all 11 Sky Sports channel including the pop up Lions one.

I FORGOT TO DO IT. WHY DIDNT YOU POST THE REMINDER EARLIER IN THE DAY HUH?!!

:P

Edit: signed up now at €19.50 per month until October. Not sure if I'm committed to 3 months or not, but would need 2 anyway for the tour..so no the end of the world

sprucemoose

TRC10 wrote: »

Must say, I didn't notice any glaring errors. That being said, I haven't watched it back yet. I know there are huge question marks over his defense.

i listened to the game and only saw the highlights but it was mentioned a few times and a few of the pieces ive read picked it out. in fairness its probably a system error as much as anything and hes just getting picked out over it. on the other hand i personally dont think he should be on the tour let alone anywhere near the test team but thats just imo

TRC10 wrote: »

He's basically James Lowe who plays for a country that can attack.

true and also a bit harsh on ireland, when henshaw and ringrose are on form they can be devastating but unfortunately thats a rare occurrence and the other combinations dont offer anywhere near them in attack (again imo)

TRC10

sprucemoose wrote: »

i would imagine that will be a very very very unlikely option, especially since he was repeatedly caught out against japan

Must say, I didn't notice any glaring errors. That being said, I haven't watched it back yet. I know there are huge question marks over his defense.

He's basically James Lowe who plays for a country that can attack.

He is an absolute weapon with the ball though.

MarVeL

sydthebeat wrote: »

who was it that was saying LCD was injured????

LCD was out cold for a while in the premiership final. Very surprised to see he made the team for this match, was thinking maybe the next one

sprucemoose

TRC10 wrote: »

there's the option of playing VDM

i would imagine that will be a very very very unlikely option, especially since he was repeatedly caught out against japan

TRC10

Buer wrote: »

For this reason, I think Williams is going to be the starter for the Lions. He's not lacking in ability going forward but is a far more solid option under the high ball. It's an area where Hogg has been attacked and exposed in recent months. I reckon it was a key reason as to why he lost his spot for Exeter also in the last few weeks.

SA play a high pressing game with a focus on territory and a hard chase. Hogg might be able to bring a lot from an attacking and kicking perspective but I've no doubt they'd go after him in the air.

Also, if the test games are moved to sea level, the booming kicks aren't going to be as prevalent.

Yeah I think Gats goes with Williams too.

For that reason I think Farrell needs to play 12. A backline without Hogg at 15 and with Aki at 12 lacks tactical awareness and decision makers IMO.

4 years ago the Lions improved immeasurably when Farrell was pushed to 12 and Sexton came in. They had a cutting edge that wasn't there before, it caused NZ a lot of problems. Henshaw is a fine distributor in his own right but can also get you gainline when needs be. If they still feel the backline lacks power without Aki, there's the option of playing VDM and using him as the crash ball option off 1st phase.

Buer

TRC10 wrote: »

Williams is the stronger defensively and aerially

For this reason, I think Williams is going to be the starter for the Lions. He's not lacking in ability going forward but is a far more solid option under the high ball. It's an area where Hogg has been attacked and exposed in recent months. I reckon it was a key reason as to why he lost his spot for Exeter also in the last few weeks.

SA play a high pressing game with a focus on territory and a hard chase. Hogg might be able to bring a lot from an attacking and kicking perspective but I've no doubt they'd go after him in the air.

Also, if the test games are moved to sea level, the booming kicks aren't going to be as prevalent.

sydthebeat

interesting to see how simmonds goes .....

TRC10

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

From a wanting Conan to be the starting 8 in the Tests I was glad to see Faletau so off the pace

But in fairness to Faletau he had to cover 7 which is somewhere to my knowledge he has never played and he was a late call up to the bench. Not surprised he was poor.

I don't think he's the player he was 4 years ago but he's still a bloody excellent player

He played there v SA in 2011, but yeah it's unfamiliar to him.

But a No.8 playing flanker shouldn't make him sluggish and off the pace. I've no doubt Faletau's form will pick up, he's a world class player and he has enormous credit in the bank.

But there's no doubt Conan got one up on him last week. Now I know it's not that black and white and Faletau is still the frontrunner, but there's no doubt he needs a good game on Saturday.

If Conan continues to play like he did v Japan and Faletau's form doesn't pick up, Gatland has a decision to make. He's not afraid to make big calls and leave out world class players if someone else is playing better (Drico, Halfpenny, Heaslip, North to name but a few)

TRC10

I'm really hoping that Hogg has a good tour. I think he's a good choice as captain, Farrell is a great leader but that doesn't mean he's a great captain.

He was the frontrunner for the 15 jersey in 2017 before he got that terribly unlucky injury. Watching his interview afterwards, you could could see how emotional he was and how much it meant to him, national rivalries aside it was difficult not to be gutted for him.

IMO having 2 playmakers/decision makers in the backline makes any team stronger. If Farrell isn't at 12, Hogg should be at 15 for the playmaking and tactical kicking he offers. Williams is the stronger defensively and aerially, but there's a lot to be said for Hogg and what he brings to a backline. Especially if Farrell isn't in the centre.

arsebiscuits1

Clegg wrote: »

Both of Farrell's appearances on this tour so far will be from 12. So it looks like a shootout between Biggar and Russell for the 10 jersey. If that's the case I think Aki had a good chance if starting the actual test matches.

Faletau needs a big game at 8. Looked very tired last weekend against Japan and didn't really make an impact.

From a wanting Conan to be the starting 8 in the Tests I was glad to see Faletau so off the pace

But in fairness to Faletau he had to cover 7 which is somewhere to my knowledge he has never played and he was a late call up to the bench. Not surprised he was poor.

I don't think he's the player he was 4 years ago but he's still a bloody excellent player

aloooof

Clegg wrote: »

Faletau needs a big game at 8. Looked very tired last weekend against Japan and didn't really make an impact.

I'm not so sure, tbh. As recently as the 6 Nations, he was in the running for Player of the Tournament and he has tonnes of credit in the bank with Gatland. I think it's unlikely the No 8 selection will come down to form across these games.

TRC10

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Interesting that Hogg and not Farrell is captain.

Looking forward to seeing how Finn and Farrell get on at 10/12!

Yeah that should be interesting alright.

Although I'm not sure how well it will work.

Farrell and Ford/Sexton have quite similar skillsets and play the game in a similar way so they compliment eachother.

Farrell and Russell are vastly different fly halves.

It also means Farrell won't be playing 10 in any of the first 3 games, which is a big indication that he's not been brought as a 10.

Clegg

Both of Farrell's appearances on this tour so far will be from 12. So it looks like a shootout between Biggar and Russell for the 10 jersey. If that's the case I think Aki had a good chance if starting the actual test matches.

Faletau needs a big game at 8. Looked very tired last weekend against Japan and didn't really make an impact.

RugbyLover123

Interesting that Hogg and not Farrell is captain.

Looking forward to seeing how Finn and Farrell get on at 10/12!

Ciaran-Irl

The South Africa Lions franchise is a bit of a garbage team. The likes of Finn Russell & Zammit could like superstars against them, but that won't tell us much. We could (and probably should) put a massive score up against them.

sydthebeat

who was it that was saying LCD was injured????

theVersatile

LIONS v THE BRITISH & IRISH LIONS

15, Stuart Hogg – captain (Exeter Chiefs, Scotland) #783

14. Louis Rees-Zammit (Gloucester Rugby, Wales)

13. Chris Harris (Gloucester Rugby, Scotland)

12. Owen Farrell (Saracens, England) #780

11. Josh Adams (Cardiff Rugby, Wales) #836

10. Finn Russell (Racing 92, Scotland) #835

9. Ali Price (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland) #843

1. Wyn Jones (Scarlets, Wales) #842

2. Jamie George (Saracens, England) #819

3. Kyle Sinckler (Bristol Bears, England) #814

4. Maro Itoje (Saracens, England) #825

5. Jonny Hill (Exeter Chiefs, England)

6. Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, England) #826

7. Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby, Scotland)

8. Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby, Wales) #779

Replacements:

16. Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, England)

17. Mako Vunipola (Saracens, England) – Prop #787

18. Zander Fagerson (Glasgow Warriors, Scotland)

19. Iain Henderson (Ulster Rugby, Ireland) #808

20. Sam Simmonds (Exeter Chiefs, England)

21. Gareth Davies (Scarlets, Wales)

22. Bundee Aki (Connacht Rugby, Ireland) #837

23. Elliot Daly (Saracens, England) #822