Dating apps and ladies over 35

i think its astounding that people on here can judge a woman on an app who is a certain age, wants to meet someone and also happens to want kids. the backwards mentality of some of you. im sure you are very nice to your significant other but its no way to speak about women in general. if you spoke to your partner or about them that way and they heard you - they would tell you where to go!

Idle Passerby

PropBuyer101 wrote: »

i think its astounding that people on here can judge a woman on an app who is a certain age, wants to meet someone and also happens to want kids. the backwards mentality of some of you. im sure you are very nice to your significant other but its no way to speak about women in general. if you spoke to your partner or about them that way and they heard you - they would tell you where to go!

I doubt they have partners. If they did they'd presumably be aware that women aren't a homogenous group that all enter a feverish breeding frenzy if they haven't procreated by a certain age.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Presumably, you have some more recent research that this study to back up your claim about Clomid?
https://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20140403/fertility-drugs-may-not-raise-breast-cancer-risk-study

I'm not talking about family structure. I'm talking about terminology - using 'retard' is highly offensive to many people with intellectual disability, and using 'handicapped' isn't a whole lot better.

yeah well breast cancer numbers are up and there is a massive correlation between the two. Its a bit more than the report says. When you learn a little about the medical industry you will find you can "buy" almost any report.

Which do you think is more important, whether people are offended by the words retard/handicapped/autism/disability or that we have a functioning society? I am offended that you are offended.

How come posts like this attract so many creepy posters.

SupaCat95 wrote: »

yeah well breast cancer numbers are up and there is a massive correlation between the two. Its a bit more than the report says. When you learn a little about the medical industry you will find you can "buy" almost any report.

Which do you think is more important, whether people are offended by the words retard/handicapped/autism/disability or that we have a functioning society? I am offended that you are offended.

its not about being offended - its about being respectful to all humans and your discourse and lack of respect towards humans is completely atrocious. how dare you.

mariaalice wrote: »

How come posts like this attract so many creepy posters.

because the entire pretense of this thread was creepy. CREEPS!!!

PropBuyer101 wrote: »

how dare you.

I shall see you at dawn with drawn pistols at 20 paces......

Wibbs

Idle Passerby wrote: »

I doubt they have partners. If they did they'd presumably be aware that women aren't a homogenous group that all enter a feverish breeding frenzy if they haven't procreated by a certain age.

:eek: NO way! Say it isn't so.

As far as the age thing goes I personally know a few women who've had kids between 38 and 44. All healthy. While yes the risks go up in older pregnancies, it's by how much is the thing. So if you said a woman at 35 has double the risk of having a bad outcome and a baby with condition A compared to a woman of 25, that sounds bad, but not if the risk at 25 is one in a thousand births. Fertility can certainly decline, but again that very much can depend on the woman(and man for that matter). Some conditions cause a drop in fertility and some lifestyle choices too. Or just pure dumb luck. Many years ago I knew a couple through friends who had been trying without success for a child, going through rounds of tests and all sorts of therapies to no end. It was extremely stressful and sadly in the end broke them up. However fast forward a couple of years and they both found new partners and lo and behold they both ended up with kids. Maybe deep down there was some incompatibility and their bodies(like hers) went Nope?

As for the dating ap profile. The women are being honest. Most women and men want kids at some stage. Better to be upfront about it.

And yes I have certainly seen a rush in some women as the 30's roll on and yes I've known a fair number to "settle" with guys they almost certainly wouldn't have previously and settle rapidly, and then the kids come along. One friend of mine told me straight that she was settling. Another that she was with the guy because she didn't want to be alone. Thing is though, of those I still know their marriages and partnerships don't appear to be any worse or better than the ones who had the full moon in June love stuff at the start. That stuff doesn't last that long for most anyway and you're left, or hopefully left with an adult that's mostly compatible with you, that you can work out life with and isn't a nutcase.

Wibbs

SupaCat95 wrote: »

I shall see you at dawn with drawn pistols at 20 paces......

Pistols be damned. I'm coming prepared.

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mariaalice wrote: »

How come posts like this attract so many creepy posters.

Point them out. I don't see it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Point them out. I don't see it.

Well there are a a few people pointing out a few home truths like:
You cant have your cake and eat it, being single up to 35 and then have prince charming just arrive and deliver everything for you in 12 months flat, (romance, engagement ring, house, marriage, baby and happily ever after) in that order.

Guys want to have kids after 40 by women who stonewalled them in their 20s-30s for not being good enough and now want babies.

Men arent excited by the prospected of building and buying a house and then be second class citizens as soon as the baby arrives or worse raising some other mans child.

YellowLead

I suspect that some of the aggressiveness towards women and tarring with the one brush is being fed by the bitterness of rejection, and small mindedness.

So what if there are women who would like a baby after 35? Not everybody meets somebody they love and can see themselves raising a child with right off the bat in their twenties.
Live and let live - if you don’t want to date such a lady then swipe on by. Jeez!

That is all.

SupaCat95 wrote: »

Well there are a a few people pointing out a few home truths like:
You cant have your cake and eat it, being single up to 35 and then have prince charming just arrive and deliver everything for you in 12 months flat, (romance, engagement ring, house, marriage, baby and happily ever after) in that order.

Guys want to have kids after 40 by women who stonewalled them in their 20s-30s for not being good enough and now want babies.

Men arent excited by the prospected of building and buying a house and then be second class citizens as soon as the baby arrives or worse raising some other mans child.

When you say there are people trying to point out a few home truths – it seems more like you are trying to point out your home truths and your point of view of what a woman is like and what she needs and wants and desires at a certain age just because she happens to be on a dating app and dating and open to having kids.

Woman do not exist to be viewed from your point of view . They are not a mere blueprint of what your idea of a woman is - someone who reaches a certain age and needs to have a man and a baby and that is all that drives them instead of someone who may just want to have kids and meet a man- suddenly - this is all they want and they need YOU the man to provide it.

Excuse you - women are a distinct entity onto themselves and are not something that can only be seen by a man's eyes. Speaking about people - whether it is men or women in such a generalised manner is a useless proposition – because every person is an individual and you cant begin to imagine what one person is looking for over another.

As many commenters have mentioned or alluded to - there is a misogynistic attitude on this thread - by generalising women you are certainly not promoting any useful conversation rather you will just simply keep viewing women from your blueprint. And that is kind of boring.

Antares35

Hannibal_12 wrote: »

... get married and then have kids the timelines are, shall we say, quite tight.

Who said it has to be in that order? The 1950s called asking where you are.

I met my fiancé online at 35. We've a toddler, and a baby on the way in a month. So the f*ck what. It isn't really anyone elses business. I sometimes think this whole "she's only after us for our swimmers" thing is a way for single guys to comfort themselves. It isn't that they're unwanted, no... they're just really clever not getting trapped by all the desperate cougars

Feisar

SupaCat95 wrote: »

Well there are a a few people pointing out a few home truths like:
You cant have your cake and eat it, being single up to 35 and then have prince charming just arrive and deliver everything for you in 12 months flat, (romance, engagement ring, house, marriage, baby and happily ever after) in that order.

Guys want to have kids after 40 by women who stonewalled them in their 20s-30s for not being good enough and now want babies.

Men arent excited by the prospected of building and buying a house and then be second class citizens as soon as the baby arrives or worse raising some other mans child.

Not picking out the poster but the type of mindset that appears to be prevalent.
What? There isn’t a war going on. Second class citizen? It’s actually third class, young lad is nr 1 herself nr 2 and then me. There are responsibilities associated with sitting at the head of the table.
Alot of funny attitudes on both sides here. It’s a home truth that a woman at 35 is up against the clock but the small man bitchiness is equally sad.

The One Doctor

A pregnancy over 35 is considered geriatric from a medical perspective, for good reason.

A study on women in the US recently found that reproductive life span of women has increased from 35.0 to 37.1 years. They attributed it to girls getting periods earlier in life and entering menopause later in life.

https://www.contemporaryobgyn.net/view/trends-in-age-at-menopause-and-reproductive-life-span

ulster

Hannibal_12 wrote: »

Just browsing some dating apps and there seems to be a legion of women with desire to have kids "someday" which is fine obviously except most of these women are 37/38+ give or take even well into their 40s.
Only on dating apps due to obvious reasons and I'm surprised by it.

In china they call them left over women.

ulster wrote: »

In china they call them left over women.

and men are bare branches

ulster wrote: »

In china they call them left over women.

Actually its really bad to be surplus woman in China where they have a SURPLUS of 5 million males. 5000,000 surplus and you couldnt find one in all of them? There was never an auld sock without an auld boot to go with it.

ulster

PropBuyer101 wrote: »

and men are bare branches

There's definitely a few bare " branches" in this forum ahahahaha

Feisar wrote: »

Not picking out the poster but the type of mindset that appears to be prevalent.
What? There isn’t a war going on. Second class citizen? It’s actually third class, young lad is nr 1 herself nr 2 and then me. There are responsibilities associated with sitting at the head of the table.
Alot of funny attitudes on both sides here. It’s a home truth that a woman at 35 is up against the clock but the small man bitchiness is equally sad.

Ahh but you are picking out me. Once a man gets married he looses the rights to half his assets. If the relationship fails he has to leave the family home, regardless if it was his fault or not.

"Small man bitchiness"? A bit harsh, there is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your family wealth.

seenitall

Deleted User wrote: »

A study on women in the US recently found that reproductive life span of women has increased from 35.0 to 37.1 years. They attributed it to girls getting periods earlier in life and entering menopause later in life.

https://www.contemporaryobgyn.net/view/trends-in-age-at-menopause-and-reproductive-life-span

Here’s another interesting (and recent) study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5403597/

It seems that the older woman is at birth of last child, the longer she is likely to live. So ladies, maybe hold off on following the advice upthread of shooting ‘em all out of the birth canal by 30, save some for later, just for your own sake!

Minime2.5

PropBuyer101 wrote: »

When you say there are people trying to point out a few home truths – it seems more like you are trying to point out your home truths and your point of view of what a woman is like and what she needs and wants and desires at a certain age just because she happens to be on a dating app and dating and open to having kids.

Woman do not exist to be viewed from your point of view . They are not a mere blueprint of what your idea of a woman is - someone who reaches a certain age and needs to have a man and a baby and that is all that drives them instead of someone who may just want to have kids and meet a man- suddenly - this is all they want and they need YOU the man to provide it.

Excuse you - women are a distinct entity onto themselves and are not something that can only be seen by a man's eyes. Speaking about people - whether it is men or women in such a generalised manner is a useless proposition – because every person is an individual and you cant begin to imagine what one person is looking for over another.

As many commenters have mentioned or alluded to - there is a misogynistic attitude on this thread - by generalising women you are certainly not promoting any useful conversation rather you will just simply keep viewing women from your blueprint. And that is kind of boring.

Men are polygamous

They are attracted to youth and beauty and access to as many women that fits this criteria as possible

Women are Hypergamos

Whilst to some degree they are attracted to looks , other things such as wealth status and power are other contributing factors. Basically she is looking for the most high provisioning male she can get and if the opportunity to level up whilst shes already in a relationship most will take it

Whilst we all have our own individual minds and are unique at a conscious level at the subconscious level we are very much still animals and behave the same according to our sex at a very basic level

If this werent true then the topic of psychology wouldn't exist