The_Honeybadger wrote: » He knew about the wine glasses on the counter, that she was not sexually assaulted etc. That’s not stuff you hear here and there. He was the self appointed expert on the case and the Gardai were taken aback at the details he had, leading them to question him about his whereabouts that night. Sorry but I don’t buy that he was just repeating hearsay.
Deleted User wrote: » I think he was a 1990's pushy tabloid journalist. Get in first, see what's happened, photograph the body, sell your story. There was also a question earlier about Jules saying there was a murder long before the info was made public. Well it is a small town, if someone said a woman was found dead they most likely also added that her head was smashed beyond recognition. Shirley found a body and was in shock. It's very common for false, or true, rumours to spread very early and quickly when a dramatic event occurs.
MoonUnit75 wrote: » To get a temp reading from a body, check rigor mortis, blood pooling etc. involves disturbing it, this was well before the leading detectives arrived on the scene. There would be a greater chance of contaminating the scene and disturbing some evidence if the local GP was allowed to take a temperature reading and to manhandle the body.
retro:electro wrote: » I don’t know he never explained that part. I’d also like to know
Mackwiss wrote: » He was an experienced tabloid journalist, half of the stuff was made up just like in all tabloid newspapers. The other half he probably got from hearing it here and there. Is it ethical to exploit the death of someone else? It isn't. But hardly any tabloid is and they sell and make millions every year. He probably was paid by the article and the more he wrote, the more he'd get paid.
Weddings ahoy wrote: » I just finished Nick foster's book Murder at Roaring Water, and thoroughly enjoyed it, haven't read any other's, but if you can I would advise listening to west cork podcast, it's on of the better ones IMO im re listening to it at the moment, gearing up for the Netflix doc release tomorrow i think ??
Rmgblue wrote: » Apologies if this had already been addressed. I watch the Sky series first. Now I'm 3 episodes deep in the west Cork podcast and wondering why - when a Doctor attended the scene along side or sometime close to the same time as the priest did he not pronounce her death and then offer up a possible time of death?
Weddings ahoy wrote: » I'm very doubtful about IB explanation and timings on when he found out about murder, he says he 1st heard it from EC approx 1.20 pm and than waited for news on radio at 2pm before driving in direction of toormore, but during the podcast he said he initially was going to drive to post office in Schull as thats where he felt he could find out more info, than S foster says she met IB driving up the road to her house and she signalled for him to stop, so why didn't he go directly to post office, to gather more info??? why head straight to the scene ??? Did the news report at 2pm give anymore info other than 'the body of a woman was found near Schull ' Did they report at that time say it was a French woman or foreign woman ???
The_Honeybadger wrote: » Does the podcast or any of the books explain how IB had detailed information about the murder in the aftermath? Wasn’t that why they fixed on him in the first place, he was writing about things that he shouldn’t have known. I don’t recall the documentary explaining it.
The_Honeybadger wrote: » Yeah I haven’t looked in to the case much, only saw the documentary, and I felt there was a lot of loose ends and key things similar to this that were almost glossed over. There is no doubt the Gardai botched things start to finish, but I do think they must have had good reason to suspect IB and that is why they tried so hard to build a case around him. Without looking in to it more it’s hard to form any sort of reasonable theory. The case is really fascinating. Can anybody recommend the best book on it?
The_Honeybadger wrote: » It said that is what was assumed. The Gardai were clearly wondering how he know so much and that’s why they went to question him initially. The documentary never confirmed how he was actually getting his information unless I missed something. If it was from a Garda then that would have cleared IB of any further interest as a suspect I would have thought? I know journalists don’t like giving up sources but if you are in an interview room being accused of murder it’s a different story.
gmisk wrote: » I thought in the doc he said he got info from an unnamed gardai?
Deleted User wrote: » What was the explanation/ theory about the blood on the door?
JP Liz V1 wrote: » How were they getting the info?
retro:electro wrote: » Didn’t he say he got the info from French journalists
JP Liz V1 wrote: » Was some Gardai his sources?
Massive Bereavement wrote: » A theory I've not heard mentioned before is regarding her being spooked at that lake the day before and calling in on a family she knew from France that lived in the area. Think Jim referred to them as the Ungerers. Well they would be one of the very few in the area that knew her and knew she was back visiting at that time. What if the man of the house decided to call in on her the next day to make sure she was alright. He would have known she was spooked, would have known she lived alone in a remote area and it being the depths of winter where it is dark and dreary for most of the time it would make sense for him to call in on her to see if she was ok. Would also make sense that she would go down to the gate upon seeing him as she knew him. But what if he made a pass at her and she threatened to tell his wife. I firmly believe she was down at the gate because she knew her killer. The gate was also used by two other houses so in all likelihood any car at the gate would not be for her and would not have prompted her to lace her boots up and head down there. Especially seeing as at least one of her neighbors lived there permanently and given the fact she had only arrived there a day or two before why would any car at the gate be for her. So a car coming to the gate would have not called for her to leave the house. But seeing someone she knew down at the gate might have. She was either going down there to assist them through the gate or she was down there to confront them as she did not want them to come up to and into the house.
chooseusername wrote: » If the Gardai were covering up for one of their own, they'd hardly pick Bailey as their patsy.
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