In Cork, Bus Éireann services travel on 625km of roadway but just 14km - 2.2pc - is bus priority. A study by Jacobs Consultants on behalf of the company identified 25 pinch points where speeds fell to between 1kmh and 6kmh at peak times.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » I haven't experienced such issues with bendy buses, in recent years at least, and I spend a lot of time in a city where they are the standard form of transport. They are more space efficient without need for a stairs, multiple doors speeds up boarding and alighting and they better accommodate buggies and those with mobility issues. They also allow for easier upgrade to light rail if necessary. With proper offboard ticketing, they would be great for our small cities.
Sam Russell wrote: » I do not want to take this thread off topic, but the experience of the No. 10 bus in Dublin is that they are not suitable for routes that require any attempt at tight corners. Also, the Wright version had no doors in the trailer and so would be no advantage over the current double decker. They are horrible buses. A four axle design, more like a tram, would be a better solution.
Heartbreak Hank wrote: » Details here:https://virtualengage.arup.com/maccurtain-street/ Pretty cool way of presenting the information without an actual public information session
Pete_Cavan wrote: » I just had a look at the council consultation site for this as it closes today and from what I can see there are no submissions;https://consult.corkcity.ie/en/node/2012/submissions Very surprised by that, I would have thought that somebody somewhere would have had something to say on it.
marno21 wrote: » The NTA have tendered for a resign of the Cork City Bus Networkhttps://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/176216/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE
Sam Russell wrote: » I do not want to take this thread off topic, but the experience of the No. 10 bus in Dublin is that they are not suitable for routes that require any attempt at tight corners.
CatInABox wrote: » You'd wonder if Jarrett Walker + Associates would go for this, they were mithered with their Dublin work, and you'd wonder how much of their work has survived the various consultation rounds.
LXFlyer wrote: » Not wanting to pull this off topic, but as has been pointed out to you before, operating articulated buses in the city, with zero infrastructure modifications in place for their safe operation, including extended bus stop cages to allow the bus pull in properly at bus stops, and retreated stop lines (as already used at certain locations in the city to good effect) that allow such vehicles to make turns safely, was never going to work. None of those were put in place and we never got to see the potential of the vehicles in practice. You're judging them without any infrastructure being in place for them to operate safely. Added to that, those buses were forced onto Dublin Bus by the DTO, against their will as they felt that the necessary infrastructure measures would never happen.
Markcheese wrote: » Is that because politically we value shiny new buses more than boring things that let the buses work more effectively .. nobody goes ooh I like that effective bus stop, and seamless ticketing ,and the fact that the bus is cumulatively quicker and more reliable ,it's a hard sell ... Whereas as extra brand new buses ,with ads on the side to say which government program has paid for it ,are easy to point to ...( And most importantly don't take away from car spaces on the road )
markodaly wrote: » What do you think Cork should do that Dublin did, to avoid this lengthy delay?https://twitter.com/DermotLeary/status/1351607058366390272
cgcsb wrote: » Cork now has its own page on the bus connects website. Unlike Galway which seems to be a council led project. There'll be 13 cbcs overall. Impressive given there'll only be 16 in Dublin and 2 or 3 in Galway. Consultation will be starting by about September apparently.
snotboogie wrote: » Anything to be said for a ferocious community opposition group with never ending funds of dubious sources who get a free ride to say whatever they want with no challenge by the local media? It's great to see this moving but given the trouble capital projects in Cork have faced, it's going to be some battle.
cgcsb wrote: » I would say it's better than in Dublin. There were fatwas issued over the grangegorman filtered permeability scheme whish was just a side show of bus connects. We've yet to see a shovel in the ground either.
yascaoimhin wrote: » NTA have posted this to their website, https://busconnects.ie/media/2230/cork-busconnects-leaflet-a4-10621.pdf, which is the usual high-level explanation of the aims and goals for BusConnects. But it has a draft timelines for the project. Earlier considerations that the Network and corridors would be done together wasn't true and in fact it seems the NTA are separating the two entirely. The Choices Report, which will ask for feedback from Corkonians if they overall support the concept of interchange etc, will be in Q3 this year. The Network Redesign will be in Q4 this year, with the final network du in Q1 2022. Assumedly this is because Cork's network is a fraction the size of Dublins and so does not require as much time When the Network is finished, then the consultation for the corridors will start,
LXFlyer wrote: » I'm surprised that they are even bothering with a "Choices" Report. It is just too high level. The NTA should realised that from the Dublin project. Better to draw up a 1st draft proposal and put it out there and then work from that, making it absolutely clear that it can change!
yascaoimhin wrote: » The reason Dublins first draft relied so heavily on the concept of interchange is because that's what the Choices Report said Dubliners wanted. If Corks Choices report response is against the idea that it wont be used from the outset
