Seth Brundle wrote: » Says a lot about the UK government's implementation of the agreement! You should ask your MP why they are not making sure that the NIP is being fully implemented and why the UK doesn't agree to the EU's food production standards to ensure minimal checks between the two islands.
downcow wrote: » Wrong again. Farmers keep a supply of antibiotics and first sign of an off colour calf and it gets a jab
downcow wrote: » And you should ask your mp why Eu is protecting you from dodgy food from U.K. but not from turkey
downcow wrote: » But still more checks from Gb into ni than turkey into Eu. Remarkable
Seth Brundle wrote: » This is not normal. You're either exaggerating or you need to change your vet!
CelticRambler wrote: » Ah, right. So because you keep company with ignorant farmers (presumably of the Northern Irish variety?) you're tarring all the rest with the same brush? But the Aussies get a free pass because you read something about their cows eating grass and being left to die. Yeah. Makes prefect sense. :rolleyes:
flos1964 wrote: » Dont know about off colour calves but sick cattle, sheep whatever you go for the penicillin ...what else are you going to do, pay a vet a hundred euros for a visit to the yard to do the same.
Seth Brundle wrote: » It will depend on what is wrong with them. Downcow is suggesting that an antibiotic is used for pretty much anything which is not the case.
skimpydoo wrote: » If a new deal was agreed? How long would it take for the Brits to change their minds yet again? Boris and co can't be trusted.
salonfire wrote: » I love the way the ROI now has the power via the EU to put the balls of the UK in a vice and screw. That's what should be done if the UK continue their antics in Ireland. Shut down Calais to them.
Larbre34 wrote: » No new deal on the protocol. None. It's time to begin the individual agreements covering sectoral trade and vetinary and phyto sanitary standards. The British really have no choice but to mirror the EU standards in all respects unless they want to see a further slippage in an already catastrophic situation. The upside for everyone is, those agreements should gradually obviate the Protocol, which was of course an insurance policy all along. And Donaldson can eff off. Ireland didn't cheerlead the protocol, we WROTE it, precisely to protect our own interests. That's what you can do when you hold all the cards! Let the 12th come and go, the conservative unionists and the LCC can just swallow it.
downcow wrote: » That won’t be happening. U.K. is a democratic country. When we hold a referendum we try to have a little bit of integrity with the decision. I did not vote to leave but I respect that the majority of my nation did vote to leave. What you describe is not leaving.
cantwbr1 wrote: » So why not accept the democratic will of the people as expressed through the NIP and trade agreement negotiated and legislated by your government as the best possible deal available
downcow wrote: » That’s not how a democracy works. You are completely free to work and agitate for change in a democratic country. If the government could be convinced that there should be another referendum and if the remainers won it then that’s entirely legitimate. That hasn’t happened. We can work to convince our government that they must be more true to the brexit result. We can also fight it in court. Both are happening.
Peregrinus wrote: » Well, baby steps. It's not that long ago that Downcow was talking about protesting in Dublin to try to effect change to UK law. It's now dawning on him that if you want to get UK law changed, your efforts need to directed at the UK government. And we should also welcome his aim of getting the UK government to be more true to the brexit result. The Brexit result disclosed (a) a Northern Ireland that didn't want to Brexit at all, on any terms, and (b) a UK that was almost evenly divided over the merits of Brexit on any terms, but that had a narrow majority for Brexit on some terms. I'm hardly the first to recognise that what this points to is a very soft Brexit, as the Brexit most likely to command the assent of a critical mass of the UK population and most likely to minimise the harm inflicted on NI. I welcome Downcow's rejection of the hard brexit foisted on the UK by the certified loon wing of the Tory party, and his call for a Brexit more true to the referendum result.
downcow wrote: » Haha. Nonsense on every point. Our people have every right to agitate in Roi for them to stop using our peace process for their own ends. If roi claim they want to protect the gfa then they need to realise that that means supporting all aspects of gfa and grow up into a big nation that can see more than a narrow nationalist view and support all people of be equally. Then the nonsense of a close referendum meaning ‘nearly a draw’. Haha tell Portugal that about the game last night. And you’ll have Francie and friends choking on his Ulster fry - telling him that a close UI referendum will result in a fudge that means U.K. maintains much control over ni. Junkyard Tom will ate you lol. But hey, hypocrisy was never a problem for many on here
downcow wrote: » Haha. Nonsense on every point.Our people have every right to agitate in Roi for them to stop using our peace process for their own ends. If roi claim they want to protect the gfa then they need to realise that that means supporting all aspects of gfa and grow up into a big nation that can see more than a narrow nationalist view and support all people of be equally. Then the nonsense of a close referendum meaning ‘nearly a draw’. Haha tell Portugal that about the game last night. And you’ll have Francie and friends choking on his Ulster fry - telling him that a close UI referendum will result in a fudge that means U.K. maintains much control over ni. Junkyard Tom will ate you lol. But hey, hypocrisy was never a problem for many on here
downcow wrote: » Then the nonsense of a close referendum meaning ‘nearly a draw’. Haha tell Portugal that about the game last night.
