Bass Reeves wrote: » I say he was right they are probably U grade cattle
Anto_Meath wrote: » I generally find that good R / U grade beef cattle fit to kill make around €50 less in the Mart than they would in the factory where as O /P grades could make over €100 less. The lads around the ring buying beef are no fools they know the value of an animal like to the nearest €1. But at the minute whatever is happening the AA cattle are make about €100 more than they would in the factory..
1373 wrote: » Albert Johnson wrote: » I wonder did the seller run out of road when he was still unsold at that price? Greed can set in with a good trade and it's simple enough you can overshoot the runway.[/QUOTE The beef farmer is allowed to be greedy once every fifty years I didn't mean it in a malicious way and I'm not an authority on factory stock. Going by the figures from those more in the know then he was probably spot on to bring them home. However you'll often see stock making what looks like a total rob and yet there not sold, in some cases it's because there wasn't any name to put down on the sheets for them. I saw speckled type ewe hoggets with twin broky lambs (mostly ram lambs) making €320 during the week and unsold. The same man got €310 the week before for better sheep with ewe lambs and was expecting similar but seemingly pushed the boat out a bit too far.
Albert Johnson wrote: » I wonder did the seller run out of road when he was still unsold at that price? Greed can set in with a good trade and it's simple enough you can overshoot the runway.[/QUOTE The beef farmer is allowed to be greedy once every fifty years
Bass Reeves wrote: » It may not be as hot as this in 4-6 weeks time. I have not got a clue how long this will last but there is another 4-6 weeks in it anyway. Whe it may not be as hot in September cattle will have gained weight. I be moving as cattle are fit
Cavanjack wrote: » I don’t think anyone can predict how long this will last. Nobody would have thought two weeks ago that the price was going to strengthen even more. History tells us the price will drop as cattle come fit off grass but you’d never know this year.
morphy87 wrote: » So if you had cattle that would carry more weight and will be still underage come early September what would you do?
morphy87 wrote: » When do you hope to start moving some? You would imagine they should still be €4 come the end of August, just curious when the farmers journal say farmers with larger numbers get a bit extra, what would be considered a large number?
Cavanjack wrote: » I have around 60 continental bullocks round 650kg that’ll carry plenty more weight. They are not coming 30 months until mid September on. I didn’t start mealing them yet as they seem to be doing a great thrive. Will probably start them in mid July. If I had cattle that were heading for 4 in the fat I’d let them off, other than that I’d hold them. All depends on your grass situation and if you have to replace them straight away. I wouldn’t like to be going out to buy stores now.
Bass Reeves wrote: » I hoping to move a bunch next week. There is a couple of three year old bullocks and a few underage FR's. Have not priced around yet so we will see. I be moving mine as they are fairly fit as I find Friesians struggle to put on weight from September on. I do not see it as hot as this in September or even August either. As I said there is probably 6 weeks in it. Cattle will remain scarce for another two weeks. Even then I do not expect a flood of cattle. I put up about those AA bullocks in Listowel. They should not be moving untill late August by right( the oldest had 60 day before overage the youngest 100+) but if I owned them I do the same. It was a flaking price for them. If you are getting a good price keep anything you can moving
morphy87 wrote: » Are your cattle coming fit earlier this year?
Bass Reeves wrote: » No they would not be as fit as this time last year. But I nearly always move from end of June on. I move in groups of 4-8. If I do not move some I cannot add others into the finishing bunch. As well the most forward cattle in a bunch are eating the most ration. I have 25 in the bunch being fed 3 kg/ head. The best 6-8 are probably averaging 4 kgs or maybe a tad with it, that means the lighter ones are back at or below 2 kgs. Take 6 out and the next 6-8 start to come faster.
Hershall wrote: » Probably kill some week after next 4.25 to be got for blks at the moment
49801 wrote: » Contract rearing. Brother running it as well as working full time. I lost interest when our own stock were sold.
morphy87 wrote: » Is 4.25 easily got now? Are cattle scarce back your way?
morphy87 wrote: » How long do you feed them for?
Bass Reeves wrote: » Depends on the market. I have a friesian and a Hereford that have never saw meal and of I got a good price for them now they in the trailer. Generally I feed from 4-8 weeks maybe more. Grass can go horrible wrong for me. You have to know the land and cattle.
memorystick wrote: » I’m feeding 3 kgs to a mix of bullocks. A good few AA in the mix. Not great cattle but middling stock but thriving. All over 26 months + What’s a good price for AA at the moment?
Bass Reeves wrote: » He might be a better judge of cattle than we think. At 850 kgs and it being mart weight he should killout 55/56%. He be 475DW at 56%. He should grade U-/U=. By the look of it next week's base will be 4.25/kg U30 months that bullock should make 4.57/4.63per kg he would make 2150-2220 Over 30 months he should make a price of 4.45-4.5/kg he make 2100euro He may know his own cattle, there grading and killout
Jjameson wrote: » They are a good trade in the right marts if the right buyers are there. the big high price flate quotes seem to be illusive. The plants with the bonus payments don’t buy flat from mortals, and trying to hit all the specs is like crash bandicoot level 22. 4.40 or even 4.30 flat for middle of road o= Underage bullocks is not bad considering the pitfalls like fatscore 5.
Jjameson wrote: » O- is still the preferred grade on a monkey operated grading machine. It’s never a case of what the cattle are, it’s a case of what they decide they are.
Duke92 wrote: » What are quotes this week for bullocks and heifers
locha wrote: » 4.25 bullocks
