Who'd live in a house like this? Part 2

KevRossi wrote: »

You won't get cheaper than this in Dublin. €100,000 for an actual 'bare canvas'. I'm actually tempted to look at this if it's still up there in 3-4 weeks. The basics like condition of the building and location are excellent. Only negative is light ingress. But it's over 120sqm of space at the same time.

New front door won't be cheap. Refit one of the toilets as a shower, get the bare minimum of furniture in from the charity shop and you can work on the rest over time.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/duplex-2a-chamberlain-court-richmond-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3421903

Well that explains why you like the south side property so much then. Funny as I suggested it was furnished from a charity shop too.

Leg End Reject

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it is currently but it has planning permission to convert it to a 2 bed duplex.

Oh!

Leg End Reject

KevRossi wrote: »

You won't get cheaper than this in Dublin. €100,000 for an actual 'bare canvas'. I'm actually tempted to look at this if it's still up there in 3-4 weeks. The basics like condition of the building and location are excellent. Only negative is light ingress. But it's over 120sqm of space at the same time.

New front door won't be cheap. Refit one of the toilets as a shower, get the bare minimum of furniture in from the charity shop and you can work on the rest over time.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/duplex-2a-chamberlain-court-richmond-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3421903

You'd also need planning for the change of use from commercial to domestic.

humberklog wrote: »

Great size, price and location but it would be a bugger to get natural light into it.

Who cares about light when you have that location, no garden to keep and very very nice accommodation in a prime spot.

KevRossi wrote: »

The rooms in that house have been rented out for years, that's why there's no personal touch in it. Excellent location to rent. Quiet and safe, no anti-social behaviour, quiet neighbours.

Possibly rented out to nurses or staff in the hospital. Meaning you have little or nor hassle with renters as they don't want to kick off. That area had hundreds of those types of houses up until the 90's. I partied in plenty of them. Owner is probably cashing out for various reasons. If anything, it's a bit underpriced.

I would say definitely underpriced to garner interest. But maybe it's to do with ethos of seller/estate agents for all we know.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

that seems too cheap.

Possibly going in cheap to start a bidding war. Top space if you need a decent sized man cave. You can fit a gym in there as well.

KevRossi wrote: »

You spent a bit too long on that for comfort.

fvp4 wrote: »

That is surely office space.

ohnonotgmail

fvp4 wrote: »

That is surely office space.

it is currently but it has planning permission to convert it to a 2 bed duplex.

That is surely office space.

humberklog

KevRossi wrote: »

You won't get cheaper than this in Dublin. €100,000 for an actual 'bare canvas'. I'm actually tempted to look at this if it's still up there in 3-4 weeks. The basics like condition of the building and location are excellent. Only negative is light ingress. But it's over 120sqm of space at the same time.

New front door won't be cheap. Refit one of the toilets as a shower, get the bare minimum of furniture in from the charity shop and you can work on the rest over time.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/duplex-2a-chamberlain-court-richmond-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3421903

Great size, price and location but it would be a bugger to get natural light into it.

Mic 1972

KevRossi wrote: »

The rooms in that house have been rented out for years, that's why there's no personal touch in it. Excellent location to rent. Quiet and safe, no anti-social behaviour, quiet neighbours.

Possibly rented out to nurses or staff in the hospital. Meaning you have little or nor hassle with renters as they don't want to kick off. That area had hundreds of those types of houses up until the 90's. I partied in plenty of them. Owner is probably cashing out for various reasons. If anything, it's a bit underpriced.

probably rented out to ButtersSuki ;-)

ohnonotgmail

KevRossi wrote: »

You won't get cheaper than this in Dublin. €100,000 for an actual 'bare canvas'. I'm actually tempted to look at this if it's still up there in 3-4 weeks. The basics like condition of the building and location are excellent. Only negative is light ingress. But it's over 120sqm of space at the same time.

New front door won't be cheap. Refit one of the toilets as a shower, get the bare minimum of furniture in from the charity shop and you can work on the rest over time.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/duplex-2a-chamberlain-court-richmond-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3421903

that seems too cheap.

KevRossi wrote: »

The rooms in that house have been rented out for years, that's why there's no personal touch in it. Excellent location to rent. Quiet and safe, no anti-social behaviour, quiet neighbours.

Possibly rented out to nurses or staff in the hospital. Meaning you have little or nor hassle with renters as they don't want to kick off. That area had hundreds of those types of houses up until the 90's. I partied in plenty of them. Owner is probably cashing out for various reasons. If anything, it's a bit underpriced.

A lot of assumptions there.

I’d agree on one thing in a roundabout way - it’s underpriced, or rather not maximizing its potential because of how it’s been (or rather not) decorated and furnished.

A modest investment (relative to the asking price) would in my opinion lead to a significantly higher selling price.

You won't get cheaper than this in Dublin. €100,000 for an actual 'bare canvas'. I'm actually tempted to look at this if it's still up there in 3-4 weeks. The basics like condition of the building and location are excellent. Only negative is light ingress. But it's over 120sqm of space at the same time.

New front door won't be cheap. Refit one of the toilets as a shower, get the bare minimum of furniture in from the charity shop and you can work on the rest over time.

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/duplex-2a-chamberlain-court-richmond-avenue-drumcondra-dublin-3/3421903

looksee wrote: »

Have you thought of writing a novel, maybe set in Caven? Or do you maybe want to buy it and you are trying to get the price down? I've seen plenty worse.

I read his first sentence and clicked the link expecting to see a drug den. It was fine.

ButtersSuki wrote: »

A valid point for sure for some, but not all buyers. There’s a reason show houses exist on new build developments and you’re not just presented with an empty box.

Can you point out to what you think is irredeemable or even bad with that place. The furniture is rental furniture. That's all.

miamee wrote: »

"In need of cosmetic refurbishment" - understatement of the year

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/terraced-house-83-fortlawn-avenue-blanchardstown-dublin-15/3422679

83 sold for €143,500 on June 11th
83A sold for €173,500 on June 11th

So someone is trying to flip the houses very quick. Which is their good right. But for Chrissakes spend €20K on top of all that, clean the place out, patch up the basics, fix the rads, fence off and clear the garden and paint all the walls white.

They could go for €300K each in the current climate if the heat and light worked.

It's a pity about them as they looked to be well looked after in 2009. But if they are looking for a quick profit then worth chancing their arm I suppose.

ButtersSuki wrote: »

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/detached-house-bushfield-villa-bushfield-terrace-donnybrook-dublin-4/3423449

It looks completely neglected and unloved, like the owner is devoid of any emotion or feeling. Its blandness is a testament to the vacuousness of the owner’s life. How can a house like this look so uncared for and dated? Sparsely decorated to the point where it seems like it’s been uninhabited for years, and what looks like hand me down furniture, or worse still for someone who clearly comes from money, dare I say the house has been furnished with items from a charity shop.

I bet it’s some tightarse from Cavan or somewhere like that who inherited it and sat alone in it at night because he has no friends counting his pennies as he’s such a mean and miserly person with no joy in his life.

The rooms in that house have been rented out for years, that's why there's no personal touch in it. Excellent location to rent. Quiet and safe, no anti-social behaviour, quiet neighbours.

Possibly rented out to nurses or staff in the hospital. Meaning you have little or nor hassle with renters as they don't want to kick off. That area had hundreds of those types of houses up until the 90's. I partied in plenty of them. Owner is probably cashing out for various reasons. If anything, it's a bit underpriced.

looksee wrote: »

I've bought several houses in my time and much prefer to see what I am getting, and do my own fixes than the nonsense 'staging' that goes on, according to lots of Youtube videos, in the US.

A valid point for sure for some, but not all buyers. There’s a reason show houses exist on new build developments and you’re not just presented with an empty box.

Deleted User wrote: »

It would be a godsend for anybody with zero interest in gardening but who likes a completely blank canvas for redecoration. Worked with somebody who lived on the little road, very convenient.

It’s a lovely house (on the outside) in a lovely part of town. But honestly if you told me it was uninhabited for years I’d believe you.

If that was “staged” (I see sonn Myron don’t has already objected to this word but it does work) properly and modernized even slightly it would likely fetch significantly more in the current market. It actually saddens me that someone could live in a house like this without anything to suggest it’s a loving, living home. It’s just so……empty.

Whilst some can imagine a property redeveloped and modernized etc. (I’d include myself in this group), many can’t. Most young buyers/families etc. in my experience want turnkey solutions and not a cold shell like this. I really feel the owner is missing a trick here.

What this really says to me is they simply don’t care enough about it and how it’s a reflection of themselves.

Leg End Reject

looksee wrote: »

Have you thought of writing a novel, maybe set in Caven? Or do you maybe want to buy it and you are trying to get the price down? I've seen plenty worse.

And it has the all important location, location, location.

Gremlinertia

BER F says to me that I would need to bring a lot to make it livable without even thinking of the blank canvas

looksee

I've bought several houses in my time and much prefer to see what I am getting, and do my own fixes than the nonsense 'staging' that goes on, according to lots of Youtube videos, in the US.

HildaOgdenx

Kamili wrote: »

Looks like pic 23 was a Montessori or play school set up in the garden to me.

Edit.. might be totally unrelated but could it be this place?
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/family-feud-pits-parents-against-their-five-sons-26014985.html

Oh I think I kinda remember that case. That's sad.

yellowlabrador wrote: »

I think you're being a bit harsh here. It's being presented as a blank canvass. It looks clean and you could move in without too much work. If you're selling an empty house its a good idea to put some furniture so you get an idea of the size of the room. We don't know what the house looked like before it went up for sale.

I’d bet it looked exactly as it is now tbh.

looksee wrote: »

Have you thought of writing a novel, maybe set in Caven? Or do you maybe want to buy it and you are trying to get the price down? I've seen plenty worse.

I said the exterior was nice. But to say I was disappointed and underwhelmed by the interior is an understatement. Some are saying “blank canvas”, and that’s fine if that’s their opinion. I just see an unloved house inhabited by the most parsimonious of owners. I’d say they wouldn’t spend Christmas so to speak. Why gave a tv in your house when you could come home at stare at your magnolia walls for the night? Why read a book when you could discover you require reading glasses and an expensive visit to the optician? It’s utterly devoid of character. It’s a building, not a home.

I stand by what I said.

I’ll also say if the owner invested in a professional house-stager (big in the US, I’m sure there has to be one at least here) they’d easily add significantly to the value/asking price of that house. But I’m assuming they’d be too tight to do so.