random_guy wrote: » Is it published anywhere?
We are confident that the independent review of the potential of the railway in the context of the Atlantic Economic Corridor will confirm the major contribution that the railway can make in terms of regional connectivity, linking Galway city with its natural hinterland in line with the National Planning Framework, as well as opening up the southern ports directly to freight traffic from the west, an essential requirement in the context of Brexit.
Decades wrote: » Genuinely - what's going on here lads? 1) https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/news/iarnrod-eireann-and-xpo-logistics-to-begin-new-twi and now this 2) https://fleet.ie/national-local-politicians-call-on-dublin-port-to-reverse-its-decision-on-ceasing-its-freight-service-to-and-from-ballina/ Are we getting increased freight trains, to and from Ballina,- or not? Asking for a friend.
Del.Monte wrote: » It was the WRC - Dr.John Bradley - "It's a very good project".
Decades wrote: » It's not a project - c'est le problème.
“I think the people of this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong.”
The bridges are there the railway line is there, the beauty of this is that it is ready to go
westtip wrote: » Thjs quote also came to mind from a retired economist on drivetime this week Ballglunin? Railway line that is only fit for scrap? I think The West on Track report author is being a tad optimistic.
end of the road wrote: » ready to go means the relevant requirements are in place for the line to be rebuilt and reopened. so the route, embankments, and most bridges etc. the line will have to be rebuilt of course, new track, drainage works etc but that is standard practice for a line that has been out of use for a good few years, and with most of the big infrastructure in place it is easy to do and the missing bridge can be built easily. at the opposite end of the scale you have as an example, the old line to west cork which was completely and deliberately and systematically obliterated after closure, which could never be reopened if there was ever a want for it.
westtip wrote: » Yes of course but he was factually incorrect when he said all the bridges are there, What!!!! A Factually incorrect statement from the author of the West on Track report!!!! Good god we will have to have a peer review, mind you hats off to west on track this is the best bit of spoofing codology they have come up with in years. Problem is they have simply not got over the fact that the government reports weren't McCann Mark 2 Maybe that is what we should call the new West on Track report, McCann 2. Nahhh let's just call it the West on Track Report . It is a report written by a lobby group fair play to them but it is not a "peer review" it is not a government policy document and it will be seen for what it is a lobbyists report touting their POV, thats fine as long as all the TDs receiving it in the Dail today, apparently it is being handed out today see it for what it is.
eastwest wrote: » This latest WOT document won't be taken seriously by the government, and indeed won't be seen as in any way unbiased -- the author has some history of public support for WOT. But this stroke by WOT is clever, it's designed to muddy the waters not only around the national rail review but also around the county development plans in galway and mayo. This WOT document won't get them a train, particularly one that can travel on the bits of track and over the bridges that aren't there, but it may delay decisions locally on the greenway, which is the purpose of the exercise. But it won't fool the people making the decisions in the Department and the EIB; their position was already made clear in the two official reports.
end of the road wrote: » so he forgot a particular bridge was missing, sure it's a tad poor but not really a big deal.
ezstreet5 wrote: » This report appears rather extensive. It will take awhile to review in detail, like the EY report did.
eastwest wrote: » The West on track document is big, but not extensive, if you know what I mean. It contains a lot of padding that would have probably been removed back in the author's working days when there would have been editorial oversight, it would have benefited from heavy editing. It contains loads of historical stuff that is interesting but irrelevant in the context of a lobbying document. Well produced though, with nice coloured pictures etc to make it attractive to TDs and councillors. Essentially, this is a West on track lobbying document that attempts to counter the poor figures on the ennis athenry investment by quoting figures for sections of the existing Dublin galway line. This has long been a bedrock of the WOT argument, so nothing new here. The other main plank of this WOT document is a grossly underestimated set of figures on the construction of a new railway from athenry to Claremorris, figures that don't reflect costs in Ireland in any way. It's hard to see what they're at with this document. It won't fool the department of transport or CIE, but maybe that's not their aim. It just has to persuade councillors that a railway is not only imminent, but that the predicted cost of that railway is just a hoax perpetuated by that crowd up in Dublin. Stalling investment on the western transport corridor until Sinn Fein gets into government appears to be the long plan.
end of the road wrote: » CIE'S viewpoint doesn't matter really since they won't be the ones making the decisions and if the line is reopened, they will operate it as told to or they won't be paid. so whether they would or wouldn't be fooled, if the report was actually designed to fool people, which it wasn't, wouldn't really matter since they no longer have any say.
Deleted User wrote: » in other news, turkeys wrote a report saying christmas dinner is a bad idea
end of the road wrote: » s hard to dismiss a report that hasn't been published. .
end of the road wrote: » it's not designed to fool anyone, it's designed to put forward the facts and the case for reopening the line. .
westtip wrote: » Here is a challenge to think what other great reports might be coming up Cadburys launch The Chocolate in excess is good for you report
eastwest wrote: » A report written by BAT that shows the benefits of smoking? A report written by Donald trump explaining how he won the election?
Sam Russell wrote: » How about a report that proposes reopening the canals to freight? It would certainly score on the zero carbon spectrum - particularly if it was horse drawn.
eastwest wrote: » The advice of CIE is always sought when developing rail projects, that's where most of the railway expertise lies in any case. In addition, Irish Rail is given a fixed subsidy, so they will naturally bring concerns to government if they think they will be asked to operate any new route that will disproportionately eat into that subsidy.
Deleted User wrote: » Could use shredded copies of the WOt report as bedding for the horses, would be even more environmentally friendly then! Reduce, Reuse, Recycle!
Del.Monte wrote: » What is this expertise of which you speak? Closing railways; de-manning stations; demolishing buildings; scrapping perfectly good locomotives and rolling stock.,,,,I could go on but what's the point....:rolleyes:
[Deleted User] wrote: » Could use shredded copies of the WOt report as bedding for the horses, would be even more environmentally friendly then! Reduce, Reuse, Recycle!
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