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Hay 2021

Sami23

Well lads n lassies - that time year again.
Anyone think there might be a window later this week and over the weekend to make some Hay.
Have a field ready to cut here so debating whether to just wrap it or try get Hay from it

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mr.stonewall

trg wrote: »

Another question....is there any difference in nutritional value between a bale of hay and a bale of silage?

Yes all down to DMD, dry matter % and the weight of the bale. Know all three and then you can make a correct assumption. Last year got some cracking hay at the end of may and when testing the silage fired in a sample. Came back as 75%DMD,86%DM. Pure gold.

Cutting date will influence the quality greatly. A lot of the GLAS stuff will be low feeding value, due to late cutting date and the quantity of seed head and stem. And doesn't matter it's hay or. Silage

trg

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Question for the experts...A field that produces 50 silage bales(baled after 2days down) will produce how many hay bales?

Another question....is there any difference in nutritional value between a bale of hay and a bale of silage?

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Tileman wrote: »

Yea it will be fairly tempting when the weather is good. Wouldn’t expect them to grant an amnesty as they would need Brussels to sign off on that. But if they just looked away for a few days it would be great. In all fairness nore farning by calendar date is not practical in real life.
The ifa should be playing the sustainability card on this one. Good weather means less plastic used which is good for the environment.

Is the idea of July 1st to give the bird a chance to have reared their young and fled the nest etc?

Surely if cattle are grazing to any degree then the bird wouldnt be able to nest etc. Surely a better option there is give a window where a farmer closes ground for say 7 or 8 weeks the bird does their thing and then the farmer makes hay.

I think its not worth the risk of going in and doing a good shot as it would be faily obvious from the air.

Sami23

I know it's been discussed over the years but what are people's preferred way of saving Hay (in good hay weather):

Day 1: Cut
Day 2: Shake out (turn)
Day 3: Turn
Day 4: Leave alone
Day 5: Turn
Day 6: Row & Bale or Turn, Row & Bale

What do ye do or hope to do next week

Tileman

Sami23 wrote: »

Wonder do many lads chance it a few days early when the weather is there to get hay

Yea it will be fairly tempting when the weather is good. Wouldn’t expect them to grant an amnesty as they would need Brussels to sign off on that. But if they just looked away for a few days it would be great. In all fairness nore farning by calendar date is not practical in real life.
The ifa should be playing the sustainability card on this one. Good weather means less plastic used which is good for the environment.

tanko

30-35 i reckon.

Sami23

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Question for the experts...A field that produces 50 silage bales(baled after 2days down) will produce how many hay bales?

I'd guess 40

BENDYBINN

Question for the experts...A field that produces 50 silage bales(baled after 2days down) will produce how many hay bales?

Sami23

Tileman wrote: »

Unfortunately mine is in Glas which doesn’t permit until 1st July which is next Thursday .

Wonder do many lads chance it a few days early when the weather is there to get hay

Too_Old_Boots

JohnChadwick wrote: »

What's the penalty if you are caught cutting it for hay/silage?

They can fine you the amount the option is worth right up to kicking you out of the scheme and looking for all the payments to be repaid.
Never heard of anyone getting caught, but they were supposed to be moving to full satellite monitoring soon but idk if the software AI is in place yet.

Asus1

Mitchells33 wrote: »

Weather looking good from Sunday onwards, hoping to knock some on Saturday or Sunday, anyone else going for it?

Hopefully knock around 10acres this evening or tomorrow here in Kildare.Grass has gotten fierce heavy over a 2 week period and the bit of rain we got has some of the grass lodging so it has to be cut.
Looking good around Midlands till next week so hopefully will get good hay.

Mitchells33

Sami23 wrote: »

Yeah gonna knock a couple of fields here as soon as weather permits after today's rain.
Wonder how far into next week we'll get ?

It is hard to figure out, weather forecast changes every hour, I am hoping we get till next Wednesday anyway

JohnChadwick

DBK1 wrote: »

LIPP is Low Input Permanent Pasture. The key is in the name, permanent pasture. It can’t be mowed for hay or silage at any time of the year. You are permitted to top it after the 1st July.

What's the penalty if you are caught cutting it for hay/silage?

DBK1

JohnChadwick wrote: »

Can you cut LIPP in GLAS? Does it have to be hay, or is silage OK?

LIPP is Low Input Permanent Pasture. The key is in the name, permanent pasture. It can’t be mowed for hay or silage at any time of the year. You are permitted to top it after the 1st July.

Traditional hay meadow can be mowed after 1st July. Ideally it’s supposed to be for hay but most around here bale it and wrap it.

Sami23

Mitchells33 wrote: »

Weather looking good from Sunday onwards, hoping to knock some on Saturday or Sunday, anyone else going for it?

Yeah gonna knock a couple of fields here as soon as weather permits after today's rain.
Wonder how far into next week we'll get ?

Mitchells33

Weather looking good from Sunday onwards, hoping to knock some on Saturday or Sunday, anyone else going for it?

JohnChadwick

Tileman wrote: »

Unfortunately mine is in Glas which doesn’t permit until 1st July which is next Thursday .

Can you cut LIPP in GLAS? Does it have to be hay, or is silage OK?

White Clover

2smiggy wrote: »

John deere 6910
john deere 6820
Kuhn 10 ft mower
lotus 600 4 rotor tedder
hay bob
mchale 5500 baler

it does fine for what we need to do. sometimes neighbours with balers join in if the weather dictates, and vise versa !!

That's a fine set up. Fair play to ye.

2smiggy

White Clover wrote: »

Fair play, out of interest, could you give us a run through the gear. I'm always interested in farming fleets!
I understand if you don't want to.

John deere 6910
john deere 6820
Kuhn 10 ft mower
lotus 600 4 rotor tedder
hay bob
mchale 5500 baler

it does fine for what we need to do. sometimes neighbours with balers join in if the weather dictates, and vise versa !!

White Clover

2smiggy wrote: »

meant it in a way that the fields are fairly easy as they not 10 smaller fields !!

Ya have fairly good gear. This is a bit of a relief, as he grazed a lot more this year, and made more round bales of silage. He would often cut 60 acres together for hay !!

Fair play, out of interest, could you give us a run through the gear. I'm always interested in farming fleets!
I understand if you don't want to.

2smiggy

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

3 handy fields?

Up west 30 acres could be bigger than an entire farm and more than that a 10 acre field is a fair sized field.

Just goes to show the difference in land across the country.

Best of luck with it, I presume you have good gear otherwise it could take all week to do 1 field.

meant it in a way that the fields are fairly easy as they not 10 smaller fields !!

Ya have fairly good gear. This is a bit of a relief, as he grazed a lot more this year, and made more round bales of silage. He would often cut 60 acres together for hay !!

J.O. Farmer

2smiggy wrote: »

it's just 3 handy fields, so all should be good. all our own gear, so not relying on anyone else !!

3 handy fields?

Up west 30 acres could be bigger than an entire farm and more than that a 10 acre field is a fair sized field.

Just goes to show the difference in land across the country.

Best of luck with it, I presume you have good gear otherwise it could take all week to do 1 field.

2smiggy

Who2 wrote: »

Once it’s not small squares it shouldn’t be too bad.

it's just 3 handy fields, so all should be good. all our own gear, so not relying on anyone else !!

Who2

2smiggy wrote: »

father cut about 30 acres yesterday. north cork area, so here's hoping for the best !!

let the fun begin

Once it’s not small squares it shouldn’t be too bad.

2smiggy

father cut about 30 acres yesterday. north cork area, so here's hoping for the best !!

let the fun begin

Tileman

Too_Old_Boots wrote: »

Looking at the bbc long range forecast today till tomorrow morning will see some mist and patchy rain it's promised good from Thursday onwards, getting hot from Sunday to Wednesday.
(Hay fever now hitting a lot of farmers by the end of the week :P)

Unfortunately mine is in Glas which doesn’t permit until 1st July which is next Thursday .

Too_Old_Boots

Looking at the bbc long range forecast today till tomorrow morning will see some mist and patchy rain it's promised good from Thursday onwards, getting hot from Sunday to Wednesday.
(Hay fever now hitting a lot of farmers by the end of the week :P)

893bet

Sami23 wrote: »

Yes it's looking that way alright isn't it.
Will you cut before Friday and let it wilt away even if gets a bit of rain or will ya hold off cutting till Friday or Saturday

Would like to but only window I have between day job and family is Friday afternoon/evening.

Just looked at a correct weather site and they have 50-60 percent chance rain every day....! Strange! Gonna ignore that one...!

Sami23

893bet wrote: »

Might be a hay window from this Friday on I think. Forecast is good. We have a bit I will chance.

Midwest area.

Yes it's looking that way alright isn't it.
Will you cut before Friday and let it wilt away even if gets a bit of rain or will ya hold off cutting till Friday or Saturday

893bet

Might be a hay window from this Friday on I think. Forecast is good. We have a bit I will chance.

Midwest area.