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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

alchemist33

I've seen two main options put forward on this forum, (1) that he'll remain a political force until the 2024 primaries start up and the Republicans have to take him seriously or (2) that he'll be so mired in litigation that he'll have no time for politics.

There are of course other options for the next 4 years - prison, exile, death or ill-health (he isn't young and he's been under stress), no politics but a business success, emperor. But it'd be an interesting exercise for people to lay their cards on the table now and make their predictions.

Personally I think his political influence will die quickly after the Capitol fiasco but someone else will emerge in 2 years, once the memories have waned, to be the standard-bearer for the QAnon wing.

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ohnonotgmail

Leroy42 wrote: »

Now, now. You are just jealous that I got a response when nearly everyone else's posts are ignored.

I'm not in the slightest bit jealous

Oh look at me I'm so great because I got a response. They'll see, they'll see

notobtuse

Can you just imagine what Trump would be like if the Maricopa County in Arizona audit and the Fulton County audit in Georgia both find enough fraud to change the results in those states, and Joe Biden’s tally in the Electoral College would shrink to 279, and Trump's Electoral College vote count would be 259... And then if my state of Pennsylvania gets off its butt and also does a forensic audit, as it should due to Philadelphia's (second most corrupt city regarding elections after Chicago, I believe) magical mystery middle-of-the-night miracle that gave Biden the state, finds results-changing fraud in Pennsylvania, too? It would mean that Trump's true Electoral College vote total in 2020 would have been 279, to Joe Biden's 259.

IMO, I know Biden and the democrats would say too bad, so sad… We don’t care about no stinkin' truth… he was certified... and by the way we’re going to keep fighting tooth and nail over any attempts to create a fair and honest elections… and well keep doing things to ensure the future election can be rigged in our favor… we'll just need to be smarter about not getting caught next time.

I wonder if that attitude of the Democrats will be worth the Civil War that will erupt in the nation?

[Deleted User]

Man, the fantasizing is still going on...

francois

notobtuse wrote: »

Can you just imagine what Trump would be like if the Maricopa County in Arizona audit and the Fulton County audit in Georgia both find enough fraud to change the results in those states, and Joe Biden’s tally in the Electoral College would shrink to 279, and Trump's Electoral College vote count would be 259... And then if my state of Pennsylvania gets off its butt and also does a forensic audit, as it should due to Philadelphia's (second most corrupt city regarding elections after Chicago, I believe) magical mystery middle-of-the-night miracle that gave Biden the state, finds results-changing fraud in Pennsylvania, too? It would mean that Trump's true Electoral College vote total in 2020 would have been 279, to Joe Biden's 259.

IMO, I know Biden and the democrats would say too bad, so sad… We don’t care about no stinkin' truth… he was certified... and by the way we’re going to keep fighting tooth and nail over any attempts to create a fair and honest elections… and well keep doing things to ensure the future election can be rigged in our favor… we'll just need to be smarter about not getting caught next time.

I wonder if that attitude of the Democrats will be worth the Civil War that will erupt in the nation?

The delusion is strong in this one

Billy Mays

notobtuse wrote: »

Can you just imagine what Trump would be like if the Maricopa County in Arizona audit and the Fulton County audit in Georgia both find enough fraud to change the results in those states, and Joe Biden’s tally in the Electoral College would shrink to 279, and Trump's Electoral College vote count would be 259... And then if my state of Pennsylvania gets off its butt and also does a forensic audit, as it should due to Philadelphia's (second most corrupt city regarding elections after Chicago, I believe) magical mystery middle-of-the-night miracle that gave Biden the state, finds results-changing fraud in Pennsylvania, too? It would mean that Trump's true Electoral College vote total in 2020 would have been 279, to Joe Biden's 259.

IMO, I know Biden and the democrats would say too bad, so sad… We don’t care about no stinkin' truth… he was certified... and by the way we’re going to keep fighting tooth and nail over any attempts to create a fair and honest elections… and well keep doing things to ensure the future election can be rigged in our favor… we'll just need to be smarter about not getting caught next time.

I wonder if that attitude of the Democrats will be worth the Civil War that will erupt in the nation?

relax carry on

notobtuse wrote: »

Can you just imagine what Trump would be like if the Maricopa County in Arizona audit and the Fulton County audit in Georgia both find enough fraud to change the results in those states, and Joe Biden’s tally in the Electoral College would shrink to 279, and Trump's Electoral College vote count would be 259... And then if my state of Pennsylvania gets off its butt and also does a forensic audit, as it should due to Philadelphia's (second most corrupt city regarding elections after Chicago, I believe) magical mystery middle-of-the-night miracle that gave Biden the state, finds results-changing fraud in Pennsylvania, too? It would mean that Trump's true Electoral College vote total in 2020 would have been 279, to Joe Biden's 259.

IMO, I know Biden and the democrats would say too bad, so sad… We don’t care about no stinkin' truth… he was certified... and by the way we’re going to keep fighting tooth and nail over any attempts to create a fair and honest elections… and well keep doing things to ensure the future election can be rigged in our favor… we'll just need to be smarter about not getting caught next time.

I wonder if that attitude of the Democrats will be worth the Civil War that will erupt in the nation?

Pretty sure the conspiracy forum might fill the void your fantasies are currently languishing in.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

Man, the fantasizing is still going on...

That's one way to look at it, I guess. Another is... Is not an audit going on in Arizona? Is not an election audit going to happen soon after a judge unsealed 145,000 absentee ballots in Georgia? Are not state Republicans in Pennsylvania now pushing for an Arizona-style forensic audit of the 2020 election?

notobtuse

relax carry on wrote: »

Pretty sure the conspiracy forum might fill the void your fantasies are currently languishing in.

Perhaps you might want to catch up with current affairs.

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

That's one way to look at it, I guess. Another is... Is not an audit going on in Arizona? Is not an election audit going to happen soon after a judge unsealed 145,000 absentee ballots in Georgia? Are not state Republicans in Pennsylvania now pushing for an Arizona-style forensic audit of the 2020 election?

Is there a lemon behind that rock?

Cody montana

notobtuse wrote: »

That's one way to look at it, I guess. Another is... Is not an audit going on in Arizona? Is not an election audit going to happen soon after a judge unsealed 145,000 absentee ballots in Georgia? Are not state Republicans in Pennsylvania now pushing for an Arizona-style forensic audit of the 2020 election?

It's the only way.

When this conspiracy theory falls apart, what will ye move onto next?

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

Perhaps you might want to catch up with current affairs.

I've just checked, the latest story on it seems like it amounts to nothing... Care to clarify where you're getting your news from?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-ga-state-wire-georgia-election-2020-4c865c79953a0d10c70bed8c18e3116a

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

I've just checked, the latest story on it seems like it amounts to nothing... Care to clarify where you're getting your news from?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-ga-state-wire-georgia-election-2020-4c865c79953a0d10c70bed8c18e3116a

I think he's getting it from here.

Wait no.

Tell me how

notobtuse wrote: »

Can you just imagine what Trump would be like if the Maricopa County in Arizona audit and the Fulton County audit in Georgia both find enough fraud to change the results in those states, and Joe Biden’s tally in the Electoral College would shrink to 279, and Trump's Electoral College vote count would be 259... And then if my state of Pennsylvania gets off its butt and also does a forensic audit, as it should due to Philadelphia's (second most corrupt city regarding elections after Chicago, I believe) magical mystery middle-of-the-night miracle that gave Biden the state, finds results-changing fraud in Pennsylvania, too? It would mean that Trump's true Electoral College vote total in 2020 would have been 279, to Joe Biden's 259.

IMO, I know Biden and the democrats would say too bad, so sad… We don’t care about no stinkin' truth… he was certified... and by the way we’re going to keep fighting tooth and nail over any attempts to create a fair and honest elections… and well keep doing things to ensure the future election can be rigged in our favor… we'll just need to be smarter about not getting caught next time.

I wonder if that attitude of the Democrats will be worth the Civil War that will erupt in the nation?

With everything that has gone on around the Arizona audit, you'd be foolish to think that it stands up to any sort of scrutiny Missing data, found data, servers removed to an undisclosed location and so on.

I'd have more faith if Trump said he was going to count the votes one by one himself only because he'd insist that there was a camera there to cover it.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a lemon behind that rock?

No, just current affair news..., that is if you're brave enough to not only read what the democrat's media handmaidens, void of journalistic integrity, choose to print.

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

No, just current affair news..., that is if you're brave enough to not only read what the democrat's media handmaidens, void of journalistic integrity, choose to print.

I cannot wait until you reveal your sources so I can laugh at the irony of this comment.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

I've just checked, the latest story on it seems like it amounts to nothing... Care to clarify where you're getting your news from?
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-ga-state-wire-georgia-election-2020-4c865c79953a0d10c70bed8c18e3116a

Sure...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/05/21/georgia-set-for-another-election-audit-after-judge-unseals-145000-absentee-ballots/?sh=1efdb5636f5e

ohnonotgmail

notobtuse wrote: »

Sure...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/05/21/georgia-set-for-another-election-audit-after-judge-unseals-145000-absentee-ballots/?sh=1efdb5636f5e

ahem

The audit will not change the state’s election results

Patrick2010

Are they auditing states Trump won?

ohnonotgmail

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Are they auditing states Trump won?

Dont be silly. why would they want to do that?

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ahem

Even more telling is relation to the cognitive function of those pushing it

In Georgia, dozens of lawsuits have been filed challenging the 2020 presidential election results, as conspiracy theories continue to swirl among Trump supporters. Some hardline QAnon followers believe the Arizona recount is just the beginning of a domino effect in which other states will find enough evidence of fraud to overturn the election results and restore Trump as president of the United States. A Georgia audit may add fuel to the fire of those beliefs, but QAnon’s “domino theory” is not based in reality

[Deleted User]

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ahem

Did you expect a Trumpist to read more than the headline? They're too busy taking things out of context by making YouTube montages.

notobtuse

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ahem

Ah, my friend... moving the goal posts. You don't ever disappoint.

I already addressed that point. Please re-read my original post. It's not about changing a potentially wrong presidential certification, it's about the civil war that will erupt in this nation if the true results were proven to be otherwise and Trump really won.

notobtuse

DubInMeath wrote: »

Even more telling is relation to the cognitive function of those pushing it

In Georgia, dozens of lawsuits have been filed challenging the 2020 presidential election results, as conspiracy theories continue to swirl among Trump supporters. Some hardline QAnon followers believe the Arizona recount is just the beginning of a domino effect in which other states will find enough evidence of fraud to overturn the election results and restore Trump as president of the United States. A Georgia audit may add fuel to the fire of those beliefs, but QAnon’s “domino theory” is not based in reality

Trump cannot be restored as president. That is not how our system works. It's about making sure future elections are fair and accurate, and election laws not ignored.

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump cannot be restored as president. That is not how our system works. It's about making sure future elections are fair and accurate, and election laws not ignored.

Good thing this was the most secure election ever then.

notobtuse

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Are they auditing states Trump won?

Any state could have a forensic audit. But I don't think democrats would want to open up a can of worms into election irregularities.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

Good thing this was the most secure election ever then.

Thanks for the laugh.

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

Any state could have a forensic audit. But I don't think democrats would want to open up a can of worms into election irregularities.

Democratic senators and representative are too busy running the country to listen to conspiracy theories.

[Deleted User]

notobtuse wrote: »

Thanks for the laugh.

Since you're seemingly very fast at reading entire articles, I recommend giving this one a shot.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

Democratic senators and representative are too busy running the country to listen to conspiracy theories.

Running the country into the ground, perhaps. But they sure are working hard to ensure audits don't happen, and ways to make future elections not very secure.

notobtuse

Deleted User wrote: »

Since you're seemingly very fast at reading entire articles, I recommend giving this one a shot.

Could you be so kind as to highlight and summarize the point you are trying to make?

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