Brendan Bendar wrote: » I outlined a comparison,Francie, a comparison to an SF person. Now housing is a totally different kettle of pïss. I think you will find I have never gotten involved in any debates to any serious thread or extent on that subject. Now I know you have plenty of time to dredge through posts and you surely will, just to try to score an innocuous point . I wish you the best of luck. But don’t wreck the thread just to get a slap at the auld Brenner. That’s all I ask.
blanch152 wrote: » https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/bobby-storey-is-an-inspiration-says-former-sf-president-40565981.html Nauseating stuff. One creep talking about another creep. "Leo Varadkar might have Michael Collins and Micheal Martin may have Eamon de Valera — we have Bobby Storey and he’s done more for Irish freedom, peace and unity on this island than either Leo Varadkar or Micheal Martin,” said Mr Adams." It would turn anyone's stomach to read that.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Surely somebody so high up on the moral ground would have expressed nausea about the veneration of Collins and DeValera and condemned those who pose in front of pictures etc. One might accuse you of 'selective nausea' if you haven't done that.
blanch152 wrote: » Now I will need to see a doctor for the nausea having read that post. There is nothing redeeming about Storey or Adams, two psychopathic creeps.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I'm sure that was your view before Adams tweered If I was that nauseated I simply wouldn't be reading their tweets or looking at them venerating people who killed in war/conflicts. If it genuinely upsets you that is. You seem to be selecting what to get nauseous about though as you have no discernible issue with selected others venerating. .
ineedeuro wrote: » Sure Adams is Sinn Fein, have to defend him over everything don't we?
FrancieBrady wrote: » No defence of Adams in my post. There are questions about selective nausea though.
blanch152 wrote: » Nothing selective about the nausea. Storey was a criminal thug, Adams covered up for pedophiles.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Collins killed and maimed...Eamo faciltated multiple abuses by sadists amd pedophiles alike. But you select who to get nauseous about, as I said
blanch152 wrote: » Start a thread about them in the History Forum, and put your theories out there, claiming they are equally as bad as Adams and Storey. Because that is the first important difference, the legacy of Adams and Storey is a living legacy suffered every day by good people on this island who didn't deserve the horrors inflicted on them by those two creeps.
jm08 wrote: » I'm sure the relatives of the 80+ republican prisoners executed by the Free State Government didn't deserve the horrors inflicted by Collins, Eoin Duffy & Co. How do you share up what Michael Collins did on the eve of Bloody Sunday Blanch?
ineedeuro wrote: » You seem to be happy to try drag every name in Irish history through the mud to cover up for a couple of lads because they are part of a political party? One of them who had no problem letting his niece get raped for years. Even tried to stop her getting justice.
blanch152 wrote: » As I suggested, take it to the History Forum, in my opinion, it is not relevant to the topic at hand. Edit: P.S. I assume you are another one giving a free pass to Adams and Storey because some other historical figure did something.
FrancieBrady wrote: » I'm thoroughly realistic about history. I don't engage in pretence about it. Some horrible and nasty things were done by people who found homes and veneration in nearly all pilitical parties on the island. The denial of that is the immoral thing. Adams made a mistake with his brother that he owned up to. My opinion of that should be well known, I have offered it often enough.
ineedeuro wrote: » Not really, you are using history as a reason for excusing behaviour now. Next you will be making excuses for genocide because "sure the Nazi's did it" That's not how history works, you shouldn't look backwards and say it is ok to do it today because they done the same 100 years ago, we are supposed to advance with time, not just rinse and repeat. That's what the majority of the World expect.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No again. I am using history to highlighr somebody being selectivy nauseous. I made no comment on the act's
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, it is extremely clear that you made no comment on the acts. You think it is ok for Adams to cover up and protect pedophiles as he admitted in his own blog and for Storey to be a criminal thug because DeValera something something. As I suggested take your opinion that they are all the same to the History Forum, where here I will continue to talk about contemporary acts for current affairs, those that are still scarring real innocent people. The thing is, you are not in the slightest nauseous at Storey and Adams, and that says a lot more than you think.
FrancieBrady wrote: » and that would be another NO. I said what Adams did was wrong and a huge mistake and I said at the time, on here, that he should have taken the opportunity to resign at that point. I have never made any comment on here about what Storey did, or Collins or DeValera in respect of conflict/war. What I was doing was calling out selective nausea which is as bad as the selective use of victims. But you don't seem to get that. BTW, As Adams has now left the political stage and Storey has left the living world, these are subjects that should also be in the History Forum surely.
blanch152 wrote: » The victims of Adams and Storey are still living on with the reprecussions. Disgusting that you refuse to condemn.
FrancieBrady wrote: » There are victims all over this island and beyond. I have condemned it as 'all wrong from the start'...something I haven't heard you say. But you are good at selecting victims and stuff to get nauseous about, I'll give you that.
