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The Parish priest

The Today fm ceo has announced major changes are coming in 17...Any predictions ? My guess cormac and daniella for breakfast, Chris and Ciara for mid morning and Ian Dempsey goes to drive time

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TaurenDruid

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

Yes some are but i've seen many a promoter or nightclub hire a "radio personality" for their venue and it was car crash stuff.

Dec is a rare exception, he's a cracking jock and has been for many years.

You've mentioned one there, what about the other 20;)

Heh, fair! I've tickets for Block Rockin' Beats (tickets! for an event!!! in real life, not f'n Zoom!), I've been at a couple of things DJ'ed by Ed, I'd happily go to anything DJ'ed by Claire Beck or Kelly-Anne Byrne. I think Ferg D'arcy might be good live, where he's concentrating on the music and not the content creation. Most of the other daytime presenters, yeah, I wouldn't be too bothered about seeing live.

swine

Funnily enough, in the second to last Ed's Song's of Praise, he suggested when this was all over renting a hall and having an Ed's Indie Disco.

I've been listening to his show on playback the day after. Seems like he is still getting grief from people irked that he isn't Paul McLoone. On Sunday's program someone texted in a request, seemingly unaware that P McL was gone, and then followed it up with some sort of insult. He sounded genuinely a bit upset responding to it.

Claude Burgundy

TaurenDruid wrote: »

How do you mean? Several of the Today FM presenters are also live DJs. Dec Pierce has a load of Block Rockin Beats gigs coming up later in the year.

Yes some are but i've seen many a promoter or nightclub hire a "radio personality" for their venue and it was car crash stuff.

Dec is a rare exception, he's a cracking jock and has been for many years.

You've mentioned one there, what about the other 20;)

TaurenDruid

Claude Burgundy wrote: »

And because they work on radio you think they'd be able to play at an event ? Ah the downfall of many a promoter and night club owner over the years.

How do you mean? Several of the Today FM presenters are also live DJs. Dec Pierce has a load of Block Rockin Beats gigs coming up later in the year.

BPKS

JoeA3 wrote: »

It's terrible. I used to go out of my way to tune into Ed after 7, it was a nice refreshing listen at the end of a day. Now its replaced with the same old tripe that they've on all day long. So I've turned off. I'll still try to catch some of Ed on the catch-up / listen back.

Nothing against Pamela personally, but they could stick any one of the other Pamelas / Jessicas into that slot and it would sound exactly the same. Maybe thats exactly what they want.

Do Bauer also Spin and if so, why would they feel the need to turn Today FM fully into another Spin?

Claude Burgundy

paddylonglegs wrote: »

When we’re back to live events we should arrange a boards beers indie disco with Ed and Paul on the decks.

And because they work on radio you think they'd be able to play at an event ? Ah the downfall of many a promoter and night club owner over the years.

JoeA3

It's terrible. I used to go out of my way to tune into Ed after 7, it was a nice refreshing listen at the end of a day. Now its replaced with the same old tripe that they've on all day long. So I've turned off. I'll still try to catch some of Ed on the catch-up / listen back.

Nothing against Pamela personally, but they could stick any one of the other Pamelas / Jessicas into that slot and it would sound exactly the same. Maybe thats exactly what they want.

Tork

KanyeSouthEast wrote: »

Turned on the show that’s replaced Ed’s songs of praise last night. Some inane conversation that I can’t remember and then Justin Timberlake.That’s enough for me over and out.

In time, this will be Today FM 24/7. All they need to do now is get rid of The Last Word and they're nearly sorted.

paddylonglegs

When we’re back to live events we should arrange a boards beers indie disco with Ed and Paul on the decks.

TaurenDruid

I've nothing against Pamela Joyce but it's the same daytime radio playlist I've no interest in hearing in the evening. But... it's technically a request show. I wonder what'd happen if they got loads of requests for some Ed or Paul-style music?

Probably nothing :-(

KanyeSouthEast

Turned on the show that’s replaced Ed’s songs of praise last night. Some inane conversation that I can’t remember and then Justin Timberlake.That’s enough for me over and out.

PhoneMain

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Not generally a fan of Ferg D'arcy's show - or at least the "D'you remember going into a sweetshop and buying sweets? Wasn't that great!" bits of it; but he's talking about Father's Day today in a fairly serious way, and it's lovely.

Fergal on iradio used actually be ok (they'd all be a lot better or at least ok if they didnt have to do that content creator sh1te!). One day there was a faus pax on his part about depression and he got a lot of criticism for it. The next day he had a genuine heartfelt segment about it and he talked about his own mental health issues and didnt mean to make light of it

TaurenDruid

Not generally a fan of Ferg D'arcy's show - or at least the "D'you remember going into a sweetshop and buying sweets? Wasn't that great!" bits of it; but he's talking about Father's Day today in a fairly serious way, and it's lovely.

xxyyzz

siblers wrote: »

What kind of grief?

I don't know, he just said something like "lads, I'm sorry you feel that way, I hope you'll get to like me better over time".

siblers

xxyyzz wrote: »

To be fair, if last night's show is anything to go by, it's continuing in the same vein as Paul MacLoone's show. He tends to play more of the indie classics from the 90's than Paul did but there was plenty of new stuff too. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I do feel sorry for Ed, he seemed to be getting some online grief last night and it's not his fault. He's doing a good job.

What kind of grief?

California Dreamer

All that matters is 7-7!

The audience for anything after that would be really small. Easier and cheaper to put on generic music show than pay whatever Paul was on. For all that Tom Dunne did on Pet Sounds, the audience was in the low thousands. Even smaller when Donal Dineen did 10-12.

Its all money and how much they dont want to spend.

PhoneMain

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Which is what I don't get about getting rid of Paul McLoone and cutting Ed Smith back to the graveyard shift. I've no idea of what Paul's JNLRs were like but from memory, Ed's went up last time out (don't remember if it was for ESOP, National Anthems, or both).

Either way, evenings from 7pm are not prime listening time, you'd think - drivetime is over, people are finishing up cooking and heading to evening activities, whether that's out of the house or just in front of the TV. So your best chance of increasing numbers is doing something different, and not just doing the same as you've been doing all day?

Exactly, cant see too many teens/early 20s people listening at this time of the evening (or any evening now with Spotify and Youtube).
I cant understand the mindset of the station directors. Is there research based on UK/US audience? Why have they disregarded the late 20s and older age group or does this content creator tripe target them as well? When I was in my teens I listened to Ray Foley on the blast but he was very different from the content creator type DJ. The personality driven DJ seems to be being killed off, you'd wonder if Gerry Ryan would ever be given a chance now, I doubt it. Iano seems to be the best performing show on the station and he isnt content creator driven. Its a show that's really losing it's identity now, very much sadly so.

But what I dont get is the fit of the DJ to the content they're being forced to put out now. I've no doubt that Mairead/Fergal/Pamela would prefer to be doing a different type of show now but that's the direction they're being forced to take. The likes of the Spin DJs or even someone in their mid 20s like Doireann Garrihy would be much more suited to that sort shtick. Mairead Farrell and Fergal D'arcy are in their late 30s/early 40s, an age very unsuited to this sort of rubbish.

xxyyzz

ford fiesta wrote: »

As Ed's new nightly 10pm show (replacing McLoone) is not specifically "Indie/Alternative", is this the first time that Radio Ireland / Today FM has been without this type of show since 1997/98?

To be fair, if last night's show is anything to go by, it's continuing in the same vein as Paul MacLoone's show. He tends to play more of the indie classics from the 90's than Paul did but there was plenty of new stuff too. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I do feel sorry for Ed, he seemed to be getting some online grief last night and it's not his fault. He's doing a good job.

ford fiesta

As Ed's new nightly 10pm show (replacing McLoone) is not specifically "Indie/Alternative", is this the first time that Radio Ireland / Today FM has been without this type of show since 1997/98?

TaurenDruid

marno21 wrote: »

Eventually, more and more regulatory required shows will be dropped and output will be harmonised across the 24 hours to make the station as tight and on brand as possible.

Jebus, that's a depressing thought. I mean, it's already been shown there apparently isn't a big enough market in Ireland to sustain one indie/alternative station, so "niche" programming is what we're reduced to.

TaurenDruid

flazio wrote: »

Good JNLRs which equals good advertising revenue. No point in bringing in edgier music shows if you can't afford to pay them.

Which is what I don't get about getting rid of Paul McLoone and cutting Ed Smith back to the graveyard shift. I've no idea of what Paul's JNLRs were like but from memory, Ed's went up last time out (don't remember if it was for ESOP, National Anthems, or both).

Either way, evenings from 7pm are not prime listening time, you'd think - drivetime is over, people are finishing up cooking and heading to evening activities, whether that's out of the house or just in front of the TV. So your best chance of increasing numbers is doing something different, and not just doing the same as you've been doing all day?

marno21

These decisions shouldn’t be coming as a surprise. Bauer are a completely different kettle of fish here and are a multinational radio operator taking over a struggling (profit wise) Irish radio operator.

A quick look at the UK radio market over the last many years will show you what will happen here. Many shows on air (especially niche shows) are down to regulation and nothing else. The Last Word is there due to regulation. The news output is there due to regulation.

Eventually, more and more regulatory required shows will be dropped and output will be harmonised across the 24 hours to make the station as tight and on brand as possible.

flazio

johnire wrote: »

Why oh why is that clown Darcy still hanging onto his job? There’s something seriously wrong if someone like him is kept on and someone like Ed basically gets demoted.

Good JNLRs which equals good advertising revenue. No point in bringing in edgier music shows if you can't afford to pay them.

The Princess Bride

I know it's on late, but a great 1st show from Ed tonight.
Onwards and forwards.

ShagNastii

johnire wrote: »

Why oh why is that clown Darcy still hanging onto his job? There’s something seriously wrong if someone like him is kept on and someone like Ed basically gets demoted.

They could literally replace his show with a bunch of South Park member berries.

The show would be exactly the same.

johnire

Why oh why is that clown Darcy still hanging onto his job? There’s something seriously wrong if someone like him is kept on and someone like Ed basically gets demoted.

mugsymugsy

Good song selection from Ed and listeners. I think a few digs in some songs. Hedonism by Skunk Anansie an example.

flazio

johnire wrote: »

Who on earth is that Jessica Maciel one? What sort of accent has she got? Utterly bizarre.

She's a Dub but she's married to a Brazilian tattoo artist running a shop in Malahide (Maciel is her married name) so perhaps his accent rubs off on her.

Lost Ormond

zetecescort wrote: »

When did Ed move to the early evening on a Sunday. I must be one of the few who likes that he is gone back to a later slot tonight

Ed going to the later slot isnt the problem its that he has replaced paul mcloone and instead of 2 good shows we just have 1 as on whats been on air since 7. the new show is going to just be the same crap music over and over like what we hear most of the time on the station during the day time

Gremlinertia

Happy for Pamela but it's not my cuppa, think it's as mentioned, a kind of continuation of daytime. Might tune in again in a few weeks just to see if she has plans.