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timmyntc wrote: » SF won't breeze it, but theyll definitely be #1 and likely will poll better than current polls state. The problem is that housing takes so long - between planning, tenders, actual construction etc. The time to start a radical housing plan was several years ago - even if they started tomorrow, they wouldnt make a dent in the housing issue by the time next election rolls around.
Larbre34 wrote: » I'm surprised people are suggesting that FF are going to have any choice. If there was an election tomorrow it'd come back something like FG 50-55 SF 40-45 FF 25-30 Greens perhaps 8 and the rest swings and roundabouts. FF either go back in with FG, or languish as second rank opposition party. In fact they'll probably be merged by 2030. Fianna Gael. Has a nice ring to it.
Larbre34 wrote: » I'm surprised people are suggesting that FF are going to have any choice. If there was an election tomorrow it'd come back something like FG 50-55 SF 40-45 FF 25-30 Greens perhaps 8 and the rest swings and roundabouts. FF either go back in with FG, or languish as second rank opposition party.
Larbre34 wrote: » Fianna Gael. Has a nice ring to it.
skimpydoo wrote: » FF will probably say no to that.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » How else are FG going to get back in to power except through some sort of deal with FF?
skimpydoo wrote: » FF and probably FG will have new leaders before the next election, and I don't think they will want another coalition.
ineedeuro wrote: » If you say so, I don't see it. Anyone I know can afford rent or buy a house and I can tell you I ain't mixing in the elite circles. Yes people have same changes to meet their requirements, some would love to live in a city centre apartment but can't afford it so move out further, but that is no different to any other generation Lets look at our recent history 2000's build houses build house build houses 2010's too many houses, knock them 2020's build house build houses See a trend here?
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » Health was a disaster before the last election (hence confidence vote in Harris). It will be in worse shape when normal service resumes. When young people cannot afford to rent or buy, 3 generations get angry.
ineedeuro wrote: » How many in a population of 5 million? 10k? 20k? Health is a lot bigger issue but RTE won't touch that at the moment because of the ransomware attack. That affects everyone and should be a priority. If the opposition was any good they would concentrate on that but it is always the flashy light story
ineedeuro wrote: » Do people think the whole of Ireland cares about the housing issues? It's just the latest in the "crisis" affecting Ireland. Tomorrow it will be something else. Next year? well it could be take your pick
Cluedo Monopoly wrote: » 100% the biggest issue for the next few years. It is impacting loads of people.
rob316 wrote: » Putting a radical housing plan into action, that is what they have to do to remain in government or SF will breeze the next GE.
Shebean wrote: » FF seem to be keeping the head while FG seem to be losing theirs. "I believe you're a Provo now father?". I want to see all the magic money tree groves FG have ready to harvest to solve the housing crisis. Using FG logic any policy in that direction would require a magic money tree. I don't think anyone will buy this presto changeo Fine Gael. Maybe a few die hard beliebers. After years of Fine Gael calling others populist here they are now talking about solving their housing crisis and a united Ireland, that's shinners for you
Muahahaha wrote: » Gonna be some craic at the next election when the FG manifesto will basically be a copy and paste of the SF one with a united Ireland and 40,000 houses a year. As I said last week that opinion poll (SF +4, FG-4) could be the first evidence we are seeing of SF now eating into the FG vote because FG voters need houses too and they know their party is ideologically opposed to delivering them. No doubt FG have their own internal polls showing a similar trend and there was also a poll that showed trust in them to fix the housing market is shattered. And then at their Ard Fheis Varadkar suddenly starts adopting SF policies. The tail is truly wagging the dog now, FG are now giving up their identity to SF in order to remain relevant, they can see the writing on the wall and its panic stations all round.
blanch152 wrote: » Real politick is that nobody wants to do business with Sinn Fein.
FrancieBrady wrote: » No, all you can actually say (as Michael showed by opening the door after the GE) is that neither FF or FG wants to govern with SF if they have equal or more seats than FF or FG. We know that future leaders have no issues on that front. Real politick blanch, not your fantastical belief that exclusionary politics will continue to work or appeal to the electorate.
blanch152 wrote: » That is your interpretation. I see many options, but none involve SF as nobody wants to govern with them.
