Bobblehats wrote: » Amongst other words…… hear it myself at the creche, very young children trotting out explicit stuff altogether with all the innocence of playground rhymes. Not least that one, will prove difficult to contain
Gradius wrote: » Yes, the countrys inordinately accelerating population is completely natural. Every country will have +50 odd percent increase in less than a generation. Don't think about it too much. We don't know who's who anymore, unfortunately our central STATISTICS office forgot to keep a tab on statistics. An innocent mistake. It's no big deal, we'll get around to that some other time. Don't think about it. Yeah, the infrastructure will be fixed. Annnny day now the trend will suddenly reverse. We don't have enough housing but we swear on our pinky we will someday. Nothing to do with our completely normal population increase, no siiirrreebob. Don't worry about it. In the meantime, let me hold that money, I'll be right back. Swear to God!
Heraclius wrote: » Take a deep breath. The population growth we are experiencing is not remotely shocking unless you have a problem with people who don't look precisely like you. This thread is a cesspit.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » a good bunch of those 1.8 million are regular people adding to our financial resources
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » you only have to hear how much the yank term "mother-fu**er" is said by kids.
Sand wrote: » The 1.8 is clearly a typo, with 1.18 intended. As stated by the initial post your are quoting, 1.18 million is 31.13% of 3.79 million and that is clearly dramatic population growth in just 20 years with a crippling economic cataclysm in the middle of it. Of course resources and systems are going to be under massive strain when people are flooding in to take advantage of them. The latest burden being placed on us is this madcap scheme to buy a house for every asylum seeker who arrives on our shores. No thought at all given to what that is going to mean for Irish people trying to buy a home or indeed the impact to the environment or peoples quality of life as they are increasingly forced to move further and further away from their work.
Heraclius wrote: » I don't see how the population is increasing by 50% in a generation. It is currently roughly 5 million and I don't think it is predicted to reach 7.5 million in a generation.
Annasopra wrote: » No. They claimed nearly a million increase a decade. The figures dont add up. The claims are nonsense.
Gradius wrote: » Anything can be a small number when you pick and choose where you begin. Try to figure out when the population began to noticeably increase, and start there instead.
Gradius wrote: » The population has increased by 1.2 million since 2000. That's an increase of 32%. The recent government plan was to increase the populations n by a further 1 million by 2040. If that were the case, our population will have grown by 59% by then. There's no point mentioning "returning Irish Nationals" because they don't even know what that means anymore. They "forgot" to record that.
bubblypop wrote: » How would you suggest that the statistics office keep a record of these things?
Gradius wrote: » Ohhh, that's a hard one....hmmm...how do you record things....hmmmmmm... Nope! No idea, I'm afraid. Maybe you should ask the central statistics office. Oh but wait...damn! They don't know either!
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » is that not their job to keep statistics ? The clue is in the name
Heraclius wrote: » A large fraction of any increase is driven by an excess of births over deaths though.
bubblypop wrote: » But how do you think they should do that?
Strumms wrote: » The cso have said in the past that Ireland's population, which stood at 4.74 million in 2016, is projected to increase to between 5.33 million and 5.81 million by 2036.. An extra million people approximately or possibly.... over a very short space of time... How will we cope ? We probably won’t. Will anybody have the stones to speak up as to what is the driver of the population increase...? Unlikely....yet..
Gradius wrote: » Yeah, you may want to dig into information a bit there. Cos if you think this population increase is down to Irish babies being born, you're living in the clouds. Your assumption about "normal" population growth was dead wrong. Your assumption about population growth was dead wrong. Maybe you should figure this one out on your own. It's good for the mind to calculate.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » its not my job, that is their job. are you just being obtuse for the sake of it ?
kildare lad wrote: » Our debt has risen from 40 billion in 2000 to 240 billion today . I know he got a 85 billion loan in 2008 but that's still a massive deficit . The people that are running this country are starting to look more inept/ clueless by the day . When people say that we have to house every refugee that arrives here , it's doing nothing but heaping more pressure on , housing , healthcare , schools , hospitals and the taxpayer. Why do we have to house them ??? When me and my mates went to Australia , we slept on bunkbeds in hostels or rented houses and headed off to work everyday . No on headed down to the welfare office " excuse me can I get a house " everyone just worked and slummed it for a few years . My friends that've stayed in Oz are nearly there 14 years and have all bought their own homes now . They haven't cost the Oz government a penny , except one who got deported and that was just being held in a detention centre for 3 weeks . It's the same when half my family went to England , no handouts, they put the head down and worked and lived in dumps till they could afford better. It's the total opposite of what happens here and it's a way fairer system .
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » its a case of more than looking inept
Heraclius wrote: » In Q2 2020 there was about 13000 births and just over 3 out of four of those were to mother's of Irish nationality according to the CSO. Meanwhile there were around 8000 deaths. The excess of births over deaths was just under 5000 in that quarter.
Gradius wrote: » Yeah, you may want to dig into information a bit there. Cos if you think this population increase is down to Irish babies being born, you're living in the clouds. Your assumption about "normal" population growth was dead wrong. Your assumption about percentage increase was dead wrong. Maybe you should figure this one out on your own. It's good for the mind to calculate.
Gradius wrote: » Irish "nationality" cannot be distinguished from actual Irish because they "forgot" to differentiate and record. D'oh! Terribly inconvenient, I must say.
Heraclius wrote: » I don't think I'm wrong about there not being 50% growth in a generation. A generation is roughly 25-30 years and I don't think you have proved that we have growth at that rate. You seem to prefer an Ireland with 2.5 million bitter people with their children leaving for jobs elsewhere. I prefer an Ireland with a growing economy and consequently a growing population.
bubblypop wrote: » What is the difference between Irish nationality and actually irish?
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