lazygal wrote: » Do catholic schools not claim to be inclusive? All the ones around here certainly do. So it's up to the school to follow through on this claim.
Tombo2001 wrote: » Well they also claim to be catholic schools. They dont exclude the kids from Geography class.
_Brian wrote: » I don’t want RE in schools either, a family religion is a thing for home. Nevertheless, the current system is what we have and what OP has to deal with. I’m very aware of having kids that are different to “the norm”. I can 100% say if OP sends their kid to a Catholic ethos school and then has them exclude the religious aspect then they will be isolating the child from their classmates, setting them apart as something different. My personal experience is that mostly kids don’t mind, but it is there and from time to time they will just want to be like everyone else in their class rather than that kid who is the only one doing different things.
anais wrote: » Run a mile. Not beong funny here but as a teacher in a Catholic school it's actually become worse with the new Curriculum. To the point where the overseer/parish connection person will say to a class 'you should be doing this story at this time, aren't you children?' it's the first time in my 26 year sof twching where morality ie venal sins etc are named. I feel very uncomfortable teaching this. It pervades the day, prayers when they come in, go home, sometimes at lunch time. Obliged to have a' sacred space' in the classroom. All the key calendar events in the church celebrated. We even had the Parish person offer pizzas to kids in my class if they became altar servers(as in, came to my classroom door). Feel free to ask more Q's or send a message. Best of luck.
eviltwin wrote: » All the more reason to schedule religious nonsense to the end of the school day, that way anyone not participating can get the hell out of there.
joe40 wrote: » I would have thought most catholic schools have plenty of non catholic children. I know when my kids were in primary school there were plenty of non catholic kids in their class.
_Brian wrote: » Nope. It should be separate from education 100% Do it at home if it’s that important to your family
eviltwin wrote: » I agree but the Catholics won't let that happen. But we keep hearing how welcoming and diverse they are so this would be an easy way to prove it. But they won't because they know that would mean the writing was on the wall.
eviltwin wrote: Can you explain a bit more about this and what it means in practice?
anais wrote: » A venial sin would be something considered minor eg telling lies. A 'mortal sin' is more of a 'grave matter' and is done with knowledge, even deliberate thought . The whole idea that 9 year olds should be introduced to such archaic language and abstract ideas is a challenge. Right from wrong, of course and consequence of choice. The RE programme in the swnuor end of the school is very theological, has good points about caring for others/environment etc but most is difficult for the kiddos to umderstand. The books are online, still free access for the most part.
eviltwin wrote: » Thanks for replying. I’d have a huge issue with teaching kids the concept of sin. It’s a horrible psychological burden to place on a child.
_Brian wrote: » My explanation is that religion is just a method to deliver moral guidance.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » A very very poor one though. How can a bishop claim that he didn't know that covering up child abuse was wrong?
_Brian wrote: » You’d need to ask the bishop that one. I’m so glad your pedestal allows you to look down and pass judgment on what other parents are doing, not unlike the failings of the church actually.
_Brian wrote: » The massive mistake that was made was as part of the settlement with the church the lands of all schools should have been signed over to the state. That’s the hold the church retain on schools, mostly the sites are owned by the church and the buildings provided by the state.
appledrop wrote: » Deeec you have obviously not read the new Flourish programme because that clearly outlines the Catholic Churches views on same sex marriage and relationships etc. Every single lesson ends with a little prayer and an Amen. Most of the time you also thank God for making you etc. And no this is not the religioos education lesson in school which I might be able to understand but the actual Relationship and Sex Education lessons that will be thought in primary schools. I suggest you inform yourself of the actually curriculum that is being taught in Catholic primary schools.
Deeec wrote: » Apple drop I have 2 children currently attending primary school. They have not been thought anything bad or negative about sex or same sex relationships. I myself was never taught anything negative either. It may be in the programme but is it actually taught in practice?
appledrop wrote: » https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/new-catholic-primary-school-sex-education-programme-published-1.4547221 I suggest you read the above article to inform yourself.
_Brian wrote: » No matter what, all the kids classmates will be working towards and engaging in the sacraments, this will significantly set OPs kid apart from the others. There’s no avoiding that. Amd for a small kid that wil make them feel different and in a significant minority. I’m not saying that is right or wrong, just as a parent I can’t see how OP will do this without the kid being isolated at times during school.
