whelan2 wrote: » The only down side with energia is there's a cap on the amount of units at the reduced price. So if you use alot of electricity you won't be saving much
Good loser wrote: » I get a big low usage charge from Electric Irl at times. Do some providers not have this?
mahoney_j wrote: » If u just submit a meter reading monthly and keep track of it yourself is this not the same and cutting the expense
Hard Knocks wrote: » Can you give a link to the monitor Do you just plug in or do you need it installed
With all the talk of electricity price hikes I said I would stick this up here.....we are with Energia for last 3 or 4 years....have to admit I would not be the greatest for keeping up with best offers,a door to door Energia salesman called to the house the other day,we get paper bills and pay by direct debit.....call me old fashioned but I like to get the bill into my hand to see what's going out:)
Basically he said to show him a recent bill.....have separate Farm and House bills.....he said he was signing up 'new' customers at a 27% discount in the area but you had to go to paperless billing.....and that really best he could do for us was a 10% discount with paperless billing.....but that if we rang Energia ourselves quoting our MPRN we could say our neighbours got 27% off and we expect same or we are going to leave them.
Just popped onto Bonkers.ie and inputted our details and a 'one year retention' paperless deal from Energia comes in with a 41% discount.It says that it factors in the upcoming Energia price increase on 18th October to savings figure of €650 that we would get on house bill.
Is this typical of the kind of discounts the electricity companies offer you to stay with them?.....wondering to myself if it's worth me ringing Energia or will I just go with the Bonkers.ie deal.
I get the paper bill from energia ,go with bonkers and you still can get the paper bill ,the bill will show you units used at full cost with the discount under it without showing the actual % discount so you better check this out when you get the bill .The discount runs out after 12 months so you switch to someone else or else bargain and renew with energia
Energia have a cap on units used at discounted price. Gone with electric Ireland here last week through bonkers
Thanks Whelan.....funnily enough the Energia Salesman forgot to tell me that!.....
Thanks for reply.....so are you referring to your current bill you get and how it has discount quoted on it?....How would you check the discount %?.....just get the calculator out or contact Energia to get them to check it iykwim?
How can you opt to still get Paper bill with Bonkers.ie?
I only recently discovered night rate hours are at the moment 2am to 9am
When the clocks go back at the end of next month that will be 1 am to 8am
The 9am in summer is handy
Night rate is 7 hours
We have an ice cooler that was building ice midnight to 4am on the mistaken belief that the compressors were running at night rate
Most of that ice was built at full day rates
So adjust your timers accordingly folks
I just switched trough bonkers probably just did not email energia back when they sent me email to confirm I was joining them for paperless billing .you have get calculator to check discount rate because I could not see where the 41% was.There night rate has a limit at discount price but this is 1000 units a mounth so would not be over it much
Where did you find this out?
Main ESB networks site
It was news to me
https://www.electricireland.com/residential/help/billing/i-have-a-day-night-meter-what-time-does-the-night-rate-start
Thats for Northern Ireland, not the republic.
In the republic the night rate is 9hr and is approximately between 11pm-8am (winter) and 12am-9am (summer)
Correct 😱
Google is not my friend,when the 1st link it brings up is electric Ireland for NI and the Republic's further down the results 👇
https://www.electricireland.ie/news/article/all-you-need-to-know-about-the-nightsaver-meter
That was a terrible error
Yes,I think I shall be writing to Google by registered post a letter of complaint for their agregious error 😂
Well, on a positive note, your compressor was running at the right time!
One small word of warning though... you probably should look at the time on your meter vs actual time and then set your timers based on the meter clock, not your watch. You have the ice maker set for midnight which might actually be before the meter clock hits night rate (which is always 11pm on the meter as it does not move back/forward like our watches do).
The meter clocks can be significantly out in terms of time accuracy so worth a check.... alternatively just set your ice maker to 1am-5am.... should be safe enough then.
Its a smart meter we have now,installed about a month ago
It sends a text to the ESB around midnight every night I believe with the latest reading
I would imagine it's clock would be bang on
True, smart meter would/should be accurate alright as it’s internet connected so will keep its clock in sync.
The smart meter plans are bad value for money though. What day and night unit rate are you paying?
17/8 approx Energia
I haven't looked at moving yet
They have a monthly cap for that price which so far we've stayed about a 100 under at peak
Old style Night Rate Heating mechanical time-clocks used for night rate storage heating used to be deliberately set to be a few minutes fast or slow so that the switch on (or off) occurred at slightly different times in houses across the network so as to prevent voltage drops or spikes as all the heaters in the country came on together. You still got your nine hours. The one in the house here stopped in a long powercut one time and was about eight hour out.
Not sure how you are getting that rate on a smart plan.
If you go to Energia's website and select rural and a smart meter the best it will give you is 17.17/13.08/17.99 for day/night/peak. The night rates are crap on smart meter plans.
The last time I asked (admittedly a good few months back) they would not give you the normal day/night rate if you had a smart meter. Things must have changed if you have a smart meter and they are giving you normal day/night rates.
I'm not on a smart meter plan
I'm on a negotiated affinity deal rate with Energia
The reason I have a smart meter is because our old meter broke
As I understand it,we will have no more meter reader visits and I can log into my energia account and view the ups and downs and nitty gritty detail of the electricity usage here now
This I haven't done yet
I'll be interested to hear how you get on with your first bill and when you go to renew your 12 month contract. I know some suppliers wont give the day/night rate if you have a smart meter. Let us know how that goes when you switch provider.
Hi there, supposed to be getting smart meter installed next week ( thought they were being installed everywhere ) Are there downsides and have you a choice not to have one ?
They are being installed everywhere over the next few years but you dont have to accept it. You can tell them you are happy with your existing meter as long as its working ok.
Take a look at the smart meter plans. They are not good value for money right now, so thats the downside.
You don't have to be on a smart meter plan to have a smart meter
You can have one and be on any tariff you like
All new installations are smart meters as are all replacements
Theres no advantage except it saves esb meter reading resources and you get a deep analysis of your use
I have not looked at smart meter plans at all but going on what you've said am shocked that they are not promoting energy efficiency
It seems counter intuitive
https://www.bonkers.ie/blog/gas-electricity/smart-meter-tariffs-here-s-everything-you-need-to-know/
Or is d it that when a team a tank is only partially full the rest of the tank is air you are cooling, this escapes and warmer air entering has to be cooled again.
Is there an app for the smart meter to break down usage
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