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Ryanair 1st 737 Max en route

stopthepanic

EI-HEN is due into Dublin at 1730 today from Boeing Field.

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rugbyman

Few mins to go

Henry Ford III

I'm still ever so slightly conflicted on these planes.

kevinandrew

Does Ryanair still market these as “game changer” aircraft? It was a debatable moniker even before the two accidents.

john boye

kevinandrew wrote: »

Does Ryanair still market these as “game changer” aircraft? It was a debatable moniker even before the two accidents.

It certainly changed the game for Boeing...

In fairness, I'm sure when things get back to normal they will make a big difference for Ryanair with the lower fuel burn and extra seats. Especially considering they probably got them for half-nothing.

Tenzor07

Great to see Ryanair getting the first Max, next to the old NG you can see it's noticeably bigger, really will be a gamechanger for Ryanair when it gets into service... And more to come soon...

john boye

Tenzor07 wrote: »

next to the old NG you can see it's noticeably bigger,

How so? Their dimensions are almost identical?

Tenzor07

john boye wrote: »

How so? Their dimensions are almost identical?

Max is higher off the ground, 8 more seats I think and an extra exit door(s) so longer as well...

Widdensushi

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Great to see Ryanair getting the first Max, next to the old NG you can see it's noticeably bigger, really will be a gamechanger for Ryanair when it gets into service... And more to come soon...

More aircraft obviously, or are you hinting at more news /orders?

john boye

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Max is higher off the ground, 8 more seats I think and an extra exit door(s) so longer as well...

You must have an eye for detail, it's about half an inch longer!

mcgragger

Not for me.

cml387

Surely not higher off the ground either? Wasn't that the whole problem.

XsApollo

I’m not an aviation expert but I seem to remember a video about the landing gear that they came up with something where the wheels extend when they are down and retract when they are up.

john boye

cml387 wrote: »

Surely not higher off the ground either? Wasn't that the whole problem.

Yeah it's actually shorter all told. The engines are bolted higher though.

I'm not really sure what plane he was looking at.

Cookiemunster

XsApollo wrote: »

I’m not an aviation expert but I seem to remember a video about the landing gear that they came up with something where the wheels extend when they are down and retract when they are up.

That's just on the Max 10. The Max 7, 8 and 9 have standard undercarriage. Ryanair have the Max 8.

Tenger

Widdensushi wrote: »

More aircraft obviously, or are you hinting at more news /orders?

Read online that there is a gap of a week before the rest of the order starts arriving.

Tenzor07

Well, have a look at them side by side, the Max definitely looks higher to the eye..

though with the extra seats, exit doors, crew seats... the galley is quite small and the two toilets are tiny, any large passengers will have to reverse in..

12 more coming soon: https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/ryanair-s-first-737-max-due-at-dublin-airport-1.4595141

youtheman

The nose gear in the Max is 8" longer and because the main gear is the same, this lowers the tail by 4". Reason for the increase in NG length is because of the high bypass engines (they are bigger in diameter so they had to do something to maintain ground clearance and reduce the risk of FOD).

Hotblack Desiato

Just another one of the awful compromises they had to make to try to keep an obsolete airframe competitive in the 21st century.

I will never fly on one.

jucylucy

Hear the first -8200 operational flight is today......no big fan fare!

Alpha Romeo

jucylucy wrote: »

Hear the first -8200 operational flight is today......no big fan fare!

Looks like EI-HEN is assigned to FR272 20:35 to Stansted.

embraer170

Any interior photos?

Inquitus

It is indeed off to Stansted!

john boye

embraer170 wrote: »

Any interior photos?

There isn't enough room to comfortably take photos.

Tenzor07

Inquitus wrote: »

It is indeed off to Stansted!

With Zero paying passengers i'd say...

john boye

Didn't realise Ryanair already have a max in service. Surprised they didn't make a big hullabaloo of it...

Van.Bosch

john boye wrote: »

Didn't realise Ryanair already have a max in service. Surprised they didn't make a big hullabaloo of it...

Can’t see many making a big deal of a Max given past issues.

California Dreamer

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Just another one of the awful compromises they had to make to try to keep an obsolete airframe competitive in the 21st century.

I will never fly on one.

Do you fly on A330 or 777?

Cookiemunster

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Can’t see many making a big deal of a Max given past issues.

But Ryanair don't fly the Max, they fly the 737-8200

They did have a press release on their social media, but the media didn't make much of it. https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryanair-takes-delivery-of-1st-boeing-737-gamechanger-aircraft/ Not one use of the word Max.

L1011

California Dreamer wrote: »

Do you fly on A330 or 777?

Quite a difference between a 1990s and a 1960s base design, particularly the amount of stuff grandfathered in on the 737 that could not be allowed on a clean sheet airframe.

Hotblack Desiato

California Dreamer wrote: »

Do you fly on A330 or 777?

They're widebodies, surely the comparator to the Max is the 320Neo

Only issue I had flying on a 330 was that it was slightly noisier than a 340

I'm not aware of any undocumented, unknown to the pilots system on a 320, 330, 340 or 777 for that matter which could crash the aircraft based on a single faulty sensor input but perhaps you can enlighten us.