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Details from the dail on the eCars €10,000,000 expansion programme.

The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-01-24/10/?fbclid=IwAR1eGLQjNFuywCoaB__FJADns7gNOD09DaR9XLueHAKZ8vljfd-kL-_LpDs

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TheWonderLlama

ah the AC was fine, I wandered around the town for a couple of hours. But i would have been a bit annoyed if I needed to charge quickly.
would have never thought of calling them, must do that next time to see if they can help.

Black_Knight

TheWonderLlama wrote: »

Was in the Sunny south east this weekend and the CCS on the 50kw DC unit in Dungarvan, St Augistinian Car Park (C7J5M) doesn't work.
AC socket is fine and I have reported it through the app, but its still showing up as working.

Yeah. Looks like CCS has been flipping between PREPARING and FINISHING states for the last day. Not faulting, but not working either. I'd say if you rang them up they'd have rebooted it and got it working.

TheWonderLlama

Was in the Sunny south east this weekend and the CCS on the 50kw DC unit in Dungarvan, St Augistinian Car Park (C7J5M) doesn't work.
AC socket is fine and I have reported it through the app, but its still showing up as working.

ELM327

Black_Knight wrote: »

So... What ESB hubs actually provide full power?

Park ri - low power from HPC
Kilcullen - ok
Portlaoise - 150kW is limited to 50kW afaik.
Galway plaza - ok
Athlone - ok
Carrick on Shannon - ok
Ballinlack - no power at all

markpb wrote: »

Nah, this seems to be me. ELM said he charged at full power at this site. I’m back again at 11% SoC, got 57kW briefly before it fell to 24kW so I switched to FCP again.

Yup, I've charged many times there in my S and also in a loaner 3 SR+ without issue. It seems to max out at around 130kW but it definitely works as a HPC.

TitianGerm

I posted here recently to say I couldn't get my ID3 on the new 50KW unit at Enniscothy. Well I tried again this morning and still getting the "unable to start charge - consult vehicle wallet" pop up ony dash.

I know the charger works because there was an ID4 using it the other day and I don't think there's anything wrong with my car because it charges fine at home, on 22KW units and on Ionity so I'm not sure what's going on.

Edit: I'm using my We Charge card.

Edit: tried again when I got back to the car with the dogs and used my eCars card and the charge started so maybe it's some issue with the We Charge card but it works on the 22KW units.

markpb

Black_Knight wrote: »

So... What ESB hubs actually provide full power?

Park ri - low power from HPC
Kilcullen - ok
Portlaoise - 150kW is limited to 50kW afaik.
Galway plaza - ok
Athlone - ok
Carrick on Shannon - ok
Ballinlack - no power at all

Nah, this seems to be me. ELM said he charged at full power at this site. I’m back again at 11% SoC, got 57kW briefly before it fell to 24kW so I switched to FCP again.

Black_Knight

markpb wrote: »

I wasn’t expecting a queue at Park Rí on Saturday morning :-/ ID.3 and Leaf have been charging for 35 and 20 minutes so hopefully I won’t spend longer queueing than charging.

Edit: I’m getting 24kW on the HPCP again so I gave up, switched to FCP where I’m getting almost twice as far. I’m lost!

So... What ESB hubs actually provide full power?

Park ri - low power from HPC
Kilcullen - ok
Portlaoise - 150kW is limited to 50kW afaik.
Galway plaza - ok
Athlone - ok
Carrick on Shannon - ok
Ballinlack - no power at all

markpb

I wasn’t expecting a queue at Park Rí on Saturday morning :-/ ID.3 and Leaf have been charging for 35 and 20 minutes so hopefully I won’t spend longer queueing than charging.

Edit: I’m getting 24kW on the HPCP again so I gave up, switched to FCP where I’m getting almost twice as far. I’m lost!

Black_Knight

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Maintenance to the servers this weekend, and a new app on the way....

Hope this doesn't scupper my hard work at http://test.ecars-stats.com/plotly.html

AndyBoBandy

Maintenance to the servers this weekend, and a new app on the way....

System maintenance Sunday 20th June

Dear customer,

Over the coming weekend June 19th / 20th, we will be performing some maintenance related activities on our systems. As a result, the charge point map on our website, your EV account online, and the ecar connect mobile app will be unavailable from 05:30am to 08:00am on Sunday morning. There may also be some short periods of unavailability throughout the day as the work is completed. During these times, the charge point network will continue to be accessible via the charge point access card. We recommend that you bring your access card with you if you intend to use the network during this time.

Following on from this work, we will be rolling out an updated version of the ecar connect mobile app. If you already use it, we kindly ask that you install the new version when prompted to do so.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Should you require any assistance over the weekend, remember that our customer care team are available 24 x 7 on 01-2583799.

Best wishes,
The ESB ecars team

loopymum

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Going to Dingle next week and one side of the only charger on the entire peninsula is out of action, and has been for at least a week now.

It's still out of action as well. I reported it on the app a few days and also rang them up to see if they could reboot it or anything but no! It's not a small peninsula either.

Luckily when I got to Dingle town the charge was available but I was mindful of percentage battery left. I had 39 percent battery left when I got to Killarney and checked the app to see the Randles garage one was available so plugged in, I had just plugged in when another ev pulled up so they had to wait for me to finish, I unplugged as soon as I had enough juice and another ev was qeueing by then as well.
I hate hate only one charger at each location, it's a disaster. I could have gone onto Kenmare but was afraid that there would be a queue there and I needed to be on schedule and traffic had already been bad.

liamog

kanuseeme wrote: »

What impact on phev owners are you talking about?

PHEV/REX owners seem to complain most about busy chargers/the state of the network and how great it was when they left their BEV at home and didn't get stuck at a charger.

kanuseeme

liamog wrote: »

I must admit I was very disappointed yesterday, left Dublin with a full charge, was able to charge at Waterford with no drama, then charged at Kilcullen. No drama at either Waterford or other cars at Kilcullen, where's all the evgeddon that seems to impact PHEV owners on motorways?

Any chance of drama was going to be in Waterford.

What impact on phev owners are you talking about?

the_amazing_raisin

Silent Running wrote: »

Back in 2018, I met my son and his family there and we went in for a coffee and sandwich while my car was charging. The seating area was nothing to write home about and felt a bit like a cheap seaside diner, oilcloth table cover and all. It wouldn't draw anyone in. I haven't repeated the experience since.

The fact that this fella is hostile to EVs would be another factor in avoiding going in for a coffee and eats. Maybe if he didn't take his ire out on EV drivers when he gets the hump, we might feel more welcome..... maybe not though, it's still not a pleasant place to eat.

I wonder does he target EVs, or is he a bit of a grumpy f!cker with everyone. Given the state of the shop you describe, I kind of suspect the latter.

Generally if a shop owner is getting annoyed at people for not buying stuff they need to rexamine their business model

eagerv

Silent Running wrote: »

Back in 2018, I met my son and his family there and we went in for a coffee and sandwich while my car was charging. The seating area was nothing to write home about and felt a bit like a cheap seaside diner, oilcloth table cover and all. It wouldn't draw anyone in. I haven't repeated the experience since.

The fact that this fella is hostile to EVs would be another factor in avoiding going in for a coffee and eats. Maybe if he didn't take his ire out on EV drivers when he gets the hump, we might feel more welcome..... maybe not though, it's still not a pleasant place to eat.

Agree with all that, also while fine dining you will probably have diesel delivery trucks idling close by..

To be fair to him, he has always been friendly enough with me. It's clear however that he doesn't like some EVs/drivers. He did say that he has a parking problem at his garage, probably due to being next door to a Private Hospital where it will cost €4 to grab a spot if you are lucky enough to find one.

Black_Knight

Silent Running wrote: »

Back in 2018, I met my son and his family there and we went in for a coffee and sandwich while my car was charging. The seating area was nothing to write home about and felt a bit like a cheap seaside diner, oilcloth table cover and all. It wouldn't draw anyone in. I haven't repeated the experience since.

The fact that this fella is hostile to EVs would be another factor in avoiding going in for a coffee and eats. Maybe if he didn't take his ire out on EV drivers when he gets the hump, we might feel more welcome..... maybe not though, it's still not a pleasant place to eat.

EV drivers love being told "security is coming" when they're forced to charge (up until recently it was the only fast charger on the N25.

liamog

I must admit I was very disappointed yesterday, left Dublin with a full charge, was able to charge at Waterford with no drama, then charged at Kilcullen. No drama at either Waterford or other cars at Kilcullen, where's all the evgeddon that seems to impact PHEV owners on motorways?

Silent Running

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

I'd say this guy was expecting (promised?) fleets of EV's charging at his shop, and every one of then in buying at least 3 coffee's, a sandwich/breakfast roll, a Mars bar, a package (sic) of crisps & a newspaper........

Back in 2018, I met my son and his family there and we went in for a coffee and sandwich while my car was charging. The seating area was nothing to write home about and felt a bit like a cheap seaside diner, oilcloth table cover and all. It wouldn't draw anyone in. I haven't repeated the experience since.

The fact that this fella is hostile to EVs would be another factor in avoiding going in for a coffee and eats. Maybe if he didn't take his ire out on EV drivers when he gets the hump, we might feel more welcome..... maybe not though, it's still not a pleasant place to eat.

AndyBoBandy

Laviski wrote: »

shops have good margins on coffee and tea along with the rest of their offerings.

I'd say this guy was expecting (promised?) fleets of EV's charging at his shop, and every one of then in buying at least 3 coffee's, a sandwich/breakfast roll, a Mars bar, a package (sic) of crisps & a newspaper........

Laviski

if esb (or easygo/ionity) doing the planning installing setup and maintenance of said units with zero cost to land owner, i think they should be very happy. shops have good margins on coffee and tea along with the rest of their offerings.

zg3409

Laviski wrote: »

Do esb actually pay rent for their stalls to be there, be it private or public land..... Just can't see how that is viable if that is true or perhaps explains the lack of expansion.....

They try not to (council car parks etc) but they possibly do like in this case. I know easygo is offering revenue sharing with site owners (i.e. no rent!)

Laviski

KCross wrote: »

My guess is eCars are slow to pay their rent and so he keeps closing it down. Just a guess but it’s somewhat logical based on how he regularly blocks it for a few days and then magically back in action again.

Do esb actually pay rent for their stalls to be there, be it private or public land..... Just can't see how that is viable if that is true or perhaps explains the lack of expansion.....

KCross

He must have some other “beef” though. Presumably he gets paid for hosting the charger and it’s not his electricity so it’s costing him nothing.

Whether people go in and buy a coffee is up to them and not in the contract.

My guess is eCars are slow to pay their rent and so he keeps closing it down. Just a guess but it’s somewhat logical based on how he regularly blocks it for a few days and then magically back in action again.

[Deleted User]

Based on my experience in Naas, I met some very unfriendly inconsiderate People when I had to charge there after each shift or should I say, wait, so I could well believe this Man had to put up with a lot of crap from People, sure, he probably doesn't help the situation now but I bet his actions now are because of the same minded People.

He probably was told the charger would bring a lot of extra business and it probably never happened and might not be helped by attitude he may have received from some EV drivers. I mean some People on some of the EV Facebook groups were complete nutters when I was in the groups and I met some of them at chargers, they're probably still on facebook causing trouble. Best thing ever I did was delete my facebook account.

the_amazing_raisin

markpb wrote: »

It’s an age old tale. Boy courted girl. Boy asked girl to move in but then she realised that the boy wasn’t as rich as they made out. Girl then proceeded to throw the boys belongings out of a window and leave oddly aggressive notes on his door.

In this case, eCars are the boy and some demented forecourt retailer in Waterford is the girl. He agreed to host an FCP and then, for reasons known only (and hopefully) to him, he decided it was a bad idea but can’t (for reasons known only to eCars) get rid of it so instead he plops picnic benches in front of it, puts up signs saying it’s out of order and, more recently, hogtied the charging cables behind it so no one could use it. In between, he moans about EV drivers and threatens anyone trying to charge there.

He also fenced off the charger once, let's not forget that

To be fair, his treatment of EVs seems to swing with his moods. I think someone mentioned he was cleaning up around the charger once and helped them plug in when they pulled up, which was pretty cool

He also told someone else they were driving a pedo's car, not so cool

There was talk about him getting trouble from some people using the charger. My guess is that someone was sitting on the charger all day back when it was free and not buying coffees from the shop

I also heard something about a gun being pointed at him which sounds like BS.

I'm not saying all EV drivers are pure and virtuous souls, I just don't think anyone planning on shooting someone would consider using a Nissan Leaf with very limited range or a highly recognisable Tesla as a getaway car

AndyBoBandy

....and there was that time he came out to an EV driver charging their car, and told them it was a pedophiles car...

markpb

eclipsechaser wrote: »

For those out of the loop, can anyone give a short summary? Sounds like a saga.

It’s an age old tale. Boy courted girl. Boy asked girl to move in but then she realised that the boy wasn’t as rich as they made out. Girl then proceeded to throw the boys belongings out of a window and leave oddly aggressive notes on his door.

In this case, eCars are the boy and some demented forecourt retailer in Waterford is the girl. He agreed to host an FCP and then, for reasons known only (and hopefully) to him, he decided it was a bad idea but can’t (for reasons known only to eCars) get rid of it so instead he plops picnic benches in front of it, puts up signs saying it’s out of order and, more recently, hogtied the charging cables behind it so no one could use it. In between, he moans about EV drivers and threatens anyone trying to charge there.

eclipsechaser

For those out of the loop, can anyone give a short summary? Sounds like a saga.

the_amazing_raisin

silver_sky wrote: »

OK that's agreed then, just need to arrange an EV for ELM.
This one looks like it fits the bill.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/piaggio-porter-electric/28226142

And he can go in and complain the charger has the wrong plug

:D:D:D

silver_sky

OK that's agreed then, just need to arrange an EV for ELM.
This one looks like it fits the bill.

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https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/piaggio-porter-electric/28226142