Hamsterchops wrote: » I've been worried about Brexit since the off, not only the people of NI, but here in the South too, for we're also suffering with all the new red tape and complications around Brexit, like even today there's an RTE article about the processing of Whiskey & some dairy products, and the complications regarding their status & origin! See link > http://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2021/0614/1228079-cross-border/ Obviously the Tories & the DUP never factored in this (third country of origin) headache when they and their supporters voted for Brexit.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So, show me a post in the 5 years since the Brexit vote ''where you worried about what the DUP were doing to the people of NI'. You were quick to worry for them when SF were simply asking for an agreement first made in 2002 (21 years ago) to be implemented.
Hamsterchops wrote: » I've only been on here for two years so give me a break. And I'll be dammed if I'm going to trapse through two years of my posts just to find a reference to my dissatisfaction with the DUP & Brexit just to satisfy your needs. I could ask you any random question too from the last five years and say come in Francie "show me the post" come on, show me where you said this or that ... I've been steady all the time re the impact of Brexit and what a negative result it would have on this island and Britain.
Fann Linn wrote: » SF have been in talks with Westminster and have asked them to enact the Language Act and then talks for MLA nominations can proceed according to Conor Murphy just now on rte
FrancieBrady wrote: » Good to see them pressuring those ultimately responsible under the terms of the GFA. They now need to be very vocal about ensuring the Irish government live up to their guardianship of the GFA and it's ancillary agreements.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Oh dear, in touch with Westminster? They're really good at abdicating their responsibilities and shifting them. Who will they abdicate to when they get into power here?
FrancieBrady wrote: » 'Abdicating power'? This shows the fallacy of saying SF are 'in power' in the north...they aren't and never were. They have a share of the power like everybody else in the Executive. The 'Executive' was always your clue here Bish. It is not a government. , it is a 'devolved' government with limited powers. The responsibilities (power) is ultimately vested in the guarantors of the GFA. And SF are simply calling on that 'power' to live up to their responsibilities. That has delivered for the people before as Westminster finally delivered on it's responsibilities on other rights given to the rest of the people's of these islands.
Bishop of hope wrote: » They've been playing a game on this. They will claim a victory if this Irish language act is enacted, but its already agreed it will be. Running to Westminster with it now is just gamesmanship. No agreement on a 1st minister unless it's implemented? Will they collapse the executive again? That's what it looks like they're threatening. Has history or democracy taught them nothing Francie. A bunch of wasters SF imo, can they not do anything without shifting responsibility, can they not face the responsibility of their devolvement and get the executive up and going now and democratically fight their corner there?
Fann Linn wrote: » No different to FFG running to Biden for help with Brexit. It's called democracy.
Fann Linn wrote: » They're only waiting 16 years, do you think they should wait another 16?
Bishop of hope wrote: » Sure they'll soon be the largest party there, they can do it then.
Bishop of hope wrote: » Not nearly a comparison, as the govt here aren't abdicating their responsibilities or collapsing the Dáil.
FrancieBrady wrote: » :D Governments have collasped the Dáil many times. Rather that face a vote on Simon Harris's competence was the reason we had the last GE. Who do you think you are codding with this stuff?
FrancieBrady wrote: » The DUP were asked and have said that it won't be implemented in this session. The DUP are attempting to do what they did on every other right AGREED in ancillary agreements to the GFA. Would you be sitting in your comfy seat cheerleading them if they were still holding out on rights for LGBT and women's rights? They 'fought' their corner on those rights and faced illegal and improper use of Petitions Of Concern. But, no, all SF's fault. Typical stuff from you guys. You are cheerleading DUP intransigence here BTW. As well as adopting a familiar FG (if I may single out a particular political stance) arrogance in dictating to people what is important to them. I watched this all the way through the Troubles and after. Nothing new in the arrogance...'lie down and take it and wait for Unionists and the British to be democrats'. :rolleyes:
Hamsterchops wrote: » ...and I presume Sinn Fein are about to pull down the NI Assembly yet again, until they get their way! "Protect the Irish Language" and make it law, or we will not agree to the appointment of the new 1st Minister :cool: And so, the people if NI are deprived of their Assembly yet again courtesy of the Shinners and their long game , which I presume is to have the Assembly permanently disassembled. You can probably comment on this Francie.
HamsterChops wrote: Spreading discontent, fcuking up Brexit, Really? Not sure about either of those, but I do know that of all the leaders up there she seems to be the strongest & most forthright. Poor O'Neill got caught out in that whole sad & sorry IRA funeral fiasco, and now she's paying the price by being asked to say sorry, even if she's been told by HQ not to
Bishop of hope wrote: » That's true, but we've never had a 3 year wait for it to come back, we have elections, we go again, we don't run to Westminster or biden
Bishop of hope wrote: » Honestly, is that your best shot, I'm cheerleading DUP stuff? It's your and others default response, your against SF on something, you're a unionist or west brit. Codswallop old bean. What about the lads running to Boris and Co?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Ultimately you are. Should LGBTQ people and women been deprived of rights because a party who never signed up to the GFA were illegally using the POC mechanism....yes or no? If your answer is a watery wilful misunderstanding of how the Executive works and was meant to work then you are cheerleading by default.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Is this an SF thread or some obtuse mumbo- jumbo about the Executive. Why does everything you get involved in always up in obtuse semantics. Shinners got on the back of the mica/ pyrite campaign fairly quickly. Pity they wouldn’t concentrate on those who were involved- builders and suppliers instead of dumping on the taxpayer straight away. Of course I believe householders involved should be fully compensated but I haven’t heard of any great effort on the part of SF to bring the other players into the equation. Be prepared……sign of things to come…….taxpayer is screwed for everything. Perps fade away into darkness. Be very afraid people….
blanch152 wrote: » Yeah, they are caught in a bind all right. They have been whinging and crying for so long about an Irish Languages Act that they will look weak and craven if they don't collapse the Assembly over the failure to enact it. On the other hand, they are not stupid, and they realise that the vast majority of the population will blame them for collapsing the Assembly if they do so, and their vote will suffer again, so they think that running to Daddy in Westminister will solve it and that they won't look weak and craven. It will be interesting to see how many posters on here fail to see through this latest pathetic diversion from SF.
FrancieBrady wrote: » The taxpayer is always on the hook if the regulators fail Brendi. Who has oversight of the regulators? The government.
FullyComp wrote: » I love this logic, if I knowingly do something bad it's the government's fault for not stopping me? Does that make Omagh or Jerry McCabe the Provos fault so as they didn't regulate the dissidents?
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