Rasputin11 wrote: » I've heard the Knockavilla saga is rumbling on. Browne and Devon Ryan might not be available for Tipp U20 selection in a few weeks time.
formerlyET wrote: » What kind of set up or runner trap/protection do Tipp need to set up on opposition puck outs - rather than their own puck out - personally, I think Barry Hogan should be selected due to the speed of his puck out. Brian takes his time - giving teams too much time to reset. I'd say we'll see a set up like this for opposition puck outs come championship - (obviously it will be very different on our own puck outs): Barry Hogan C BARRETT Pauric Maher Barry Heff Niall O’Meara Willy Connors Ronan Maher Seamus Kennedy Brendan Maher Dan McC Flynn Callanan Noel McG Bubbles Jason Forde
formerlyET wrote: » Christ. The GAA Hour we're taking the piss out of Sheedy for talking about a training block and using it as an excuse.
Mantis Toboggan wrote: » Yeah Sheedy said he's most likely out of the semi final, bubbles also.
formerlyET wrote: » Jesus, will an appendix keep him out that long? He is terribly unlucky.
Rasputin11 wrote: » Niall O Meara out of the opener after having his appendix removed, he never has any luck with injuries and now illness.
Joe_ Public wrote: » I think supply to forwards and tracking runners are the two key points to focus on, much more pertinent than the repeated focus on pace or age. Not tracking runners is what almost killed us in the 2019 sf, we could definitely be vulnerable to teams playing that style if not sufficiently set up to counter it. Some of that depends on supply too, the poorer it is, the more susceptible we are to counters where our midfield and backs get swamped and then blamed for lack of pace! Also of the view we might need either Dan or Brendan in the middle. I'd probably opt for Bren on the basis i think Dan's qualities might be more urgently required on the wing. We could do with at least one of the younger lads taking a leap forward this summer and making a statement, for sure.
Pogue eile wrote: » And it has now been confirmed that Prunty and Fives are out for the Clare game and Gleeson is a serious doubt. Bigger picture people!!
Pogue eile wrote: » Today was a better day for Liam Sheedy than it was for Liam Cahill when you consider Austin Gleeson having to leave the field injured two weeks before they face Clare in the championship.
Ompala wrote: » Thats something encouraging from the game so. Sunday Game didn't give much coverage to it last night, but from watching the highlights one of Waterfords goals could have been avoided. Good discussion given here at around the 28:25 mark on OurGamehttps://youtu.be/JsuhSMhSX6A Did mention a lack of back tracking and delivery of the ball into forwards as being particularly poor from Tipp.
Pogue eile wrote: » 6 wides in total, 2 in the first half and four in the second. Much improved in that regard.
Ompala wrote: » Haven't seen any of the game (I know, a sin!) so can only go by match reports. Seemed it was nip and tuck until the 3rd quarter, then we Waterford took over and that was the winning of it, we were playing catch up after that. Not a terrible position to be in coming into Championship with items to work on (every team has them) but I'll have to watch the game before commenting fully. As a matter of interest, anyone know what our wide count was today?
Pogue eile wrote: » See if you are going to talk pure and utter tripe its very hard to take anything you say serioulsly. A match day 20? Not really sure what that is to be honest, but anyway can you please name the players in the Tipp panel who would 'not trouble club teams' ??
formerlyET wrote: » Don't know the exact wide tally - but we had less wides. We were poor in between the two 65s that's for sure. Well, beat in the middle third. Waterford dropped Peter Hogan back deep.
1373 wrote: » Maybe or maybe not, but there’s several players on the Tipp match day 20 that would not trouble club teams , never mind inter county teams
formerlyET wrote: » My point is, both your points contradict each other. In the space of a week we went from a squad with depth to not developing young guys. It's up to the young lads to produce when called upon. They did when called on in 2019. So, up to them to keep going and produce the goods - only issue is there's quality with more experience ahead of them. I don't think Tipp get too excited about the league. I think we'll go close this year, if not win it. Have as much a chance as anyone. Look at your post here from 2019. A good omen? Also you were worried about pace when we went play cork down in cork in 2019. 16-03-2019, 19:23 #7129 Mantis Toboggan Been a really disappointing league truth be told. 6 games 4 defeats and we've arguably put out our strongest team in each game. Eamonn O'Shea will have to work miracles in May.
Pogue eile wrote: » So all the same age or younger than Joe Canning and Tj Reid, both widly acknowledged as two of the best players in the game. How is 30 considered old? Galway have 5 of their first choice 15 over 30 and I have not once heard anyone ever refer to them as old. One of Ger Loughanes greatest achievements was convincing people that Tipp were old - the same team won an AI since he started that nonesene. Bubbles is 29, so thats just silly! Noel, Brendan, Paudie and Seamie are four of the greatest hurlers to have ever donned the blue and gold and would walk on to every single team in the country bar none.
Mantis Toboggan wrote: » Obviously you've alot of time on your hands for a Sunday evening to be going through people's post history. Fortunately I've better things to be doing. If you want to debate my posts then I'm happy to listen to your opinion. So, do you not agree that we have a decent squad? Also do you think the young players coming through have flourished and developed in the 3 years under Sheedy?
formerlyET wrote: » This last week: We're developing a decent squad with plenty of depth. Subs well capable of making a difference. And this today: What's been really disappointing over the last few years is very few young players making the step up for whatever reason. We've had successful underage teams. Sheedy seems very reluctant to give these guys a chance. Sometimes you just need to give youngsters the opportunity and back them. Kiely is playing a lad doing his leaving cert and he looks the part already and they're reigning champions. We're not really building anything for the future, possibly Sheedy's last year? And?
formerlyET wrote: » Just last week you posted this: 07-06-2021, 17:55 #9942 Mantis Toboggan Registered User Mantis Toboggan's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 13,555 Adverts | Friends I don't think we'll see a full strength side for Waterford on Sunday. Few players could do with a rest. Paidie is made for full back. Any side playing 2 inside forwards I'd imagine he'll become a sweeper. We're developing a decent squad with plenty of depth. Subs well capable of making a difference. Mantis Toboggan is offline Report Post Thanks from: Remove Your Thanks formerlyET
