El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Yeah he did but how highly did you rate Sirotkin? Also, he beat Sirotkin but I'm not sure about "beat the brakes off sirotkin. Sirotkin won the quali battle 13-8 stroll won the race result battle 9-8 and scored 6 points to Sirotkin's 1. No doubt that he won the battle against Sirotkin. If you calss that as Sirotkin having his brakes beaten off then how do you class Stroll's beating at the hands of Perez over the last 2 seasons?
barryribs wrote: » I don't rate him highly at all, Strolls race pace was miles ahead of Sirotkin and this was borne out in the points return.
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Marginally beaten by an aging Massa in his first season. Marginally beat pay driver and an absolute nobody Sirotkin in his second and beaten out the gate by perez in the next 2 seasons.
muckwarrior wrote: » Not marginally beaten, well beaten. He got a podium in a race that Massa was set to win but for a mechanical. As a result the points difference was close. Lance has graduated from being slow-as-f*ck to merely below average.
MadYaker wrote: » Yeah Lance is middling which is fine, you could argue he'd have a right to be there on merit. People bash him and his family but to be honest he seems like a likeable enough guy. His father rescued a team that may have gone bust and offered Williams a fair partnership deal also, they've had a positive influence on the sport imo. A hell of a lot better than Mazepin at least. What are peoples opinions on the French GP? Many seem to think it's the most boring of the year, is it a guaranteed stinker or worth a watch?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » France is up there with Monaco as the worst races. I find the hate for Mazepin interesting. I think it comes back to an inherent distrust of Russia.the outrage at the Russian flag car design was totally disproportionate. Feeling up young wans and punching rivals were top banter if Senna did it. In any case. When Mazepin has been there for 5 years. Like Stroll, then this conversation will have moved into the "he's there on merit" phase too - as long as his bottle doesn't go.
duploelabs wrote: » The difference is that Senna could actually drive an F1 car
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » SO if Mazepin was fast then feeling up young wans and punching rivals would be top banter? All those outrages were before he had turned an F1 wheel. The flag one in particular was totally over the top. Like, its a flag livery design, so what? But the outrage was proportionate to if he had painted a big "fcuk you" on the side of the car. It was just a national flag.
duploelabs wrote: » The flag is banned due to " a Court of Arbitration for Sport ruling from December which barred Russia’s name, flag, anthem and other national symbols in a package of sanctions over what it deemed Russia’s failure to turn over accurate data from the Moscow drug-testing laboratory. " not because any sensitivities, actual global sport law.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » It's not banned though. They got the livery in before the ban took effect so it turns out it didn't break any rules. It's just national a flag liver the people got really cross about because they thought it broke a rule but it actually didn't. It's not a bad livery, white with blue and red are pretty classic racing colours. Even so, If I were WADA then I'd be cross that they got around the rules, but I'm not WADA so I really don't see why anyone else got upset. I think it's an anti-Russian bias. I'm probably biased against Russia myself - hard not to be given the media coverage of Russia.
duploelabs wrote: » There's no media bias when it comes to the Russian sports agency, they're found to be corrupt as a total organisation by a court of law, not a court of opinion, hence the ban
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » No argument on the Russian state sponsored doping. Pretty heavy media bias in general though. Are we at least agree that the ban doesn't apply to the Haas livery and it doesn't break the rules?
duploelabs wrote: » It's there because it got in before the ban, I doubt they'd be able to repeat it next season
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Oh yeah I'd say you're right that they won't be able to carry it over until next year (assuming the have to register these things annually). But they didn't actually break the rules and still people who aren't affected by the rules are cross about them getting in before the rule took effect. Can you see how that's pretty unusual? It's only a small issue anyway. He's pretty irrelevant in the sport this year. Just making up the numbers in the Haas. Interesting to see how Haas goes next year given that they've switched to developing the new car before anyone else. Solid mid table wouldn't be an unreasonable expectation for them - and then Mazepin's driving style would become much more relevant. He'll have a full year of experience under his belt by then though, and like Stroll, will likely be improved for the practice.
duploelabs wrote: » I'd like to see a historical similarity where a rookie, with as constantly bad margin lap times as Mazepin does, suddenly got good as you attest he will, in a subsequent season
MadYaker wrote: » What are peoples opinions on the French GP? Many seem to think it's the most boring of the year, is it a guaranteed stinker or worth a watch?
This is it wrote: » He's someone that's easy to dislike, much like Hamilton. Between the flag/livery, points on his f2 license, the money and grabbing women's bits he might as well be Ivan Drago, all we need is an American to come to the rescue and kick his ass. Hardly unusual that some people would dislike him, is it?
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