Triangle wrote: » Anyone that doesn't see this has questionable morals/ethics. But then I'm probably in the wrong thread if I'm looking for morality.
StupidLikeAFox wrote: » I'm the opposite - complete non event. A spotty teenager in a hi vis asks you anonymously who you are going to vote for - does it matter if he is from sinn fein or from a polling company paid for by sinn fein?
blanch152 wrote: » To a certain extent, you have a point. So long as the data is collected anonymously, you can argue there is minimal harm. However, there is something underhand and immoral about using fake business cards, or worse, fake IDs, when questioned by voters. FG and SF still have questions to answer on this. Where it would get really serious is if the data wasn't collected anonymously and was entered into a centralised database and information collated about individuals. That is a whole other level of sinister, and potentially criminal behaviour. Any use of fake business cards is very minor compared to that kind of information-gathering.
FrancieBrady wrote: » As an attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear of a week, not a bad effort. We've come a long way from the 'Gardai' should be involved.
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Hmmm ….wouldn’t be too happy if some Shinner ‘activist’ with what could be a ‘shady’ background sloping around casa Breandán,dressed in a new suit looking for info. No siree……..you can put lipstick on a pig, but still a pig, to misquote the auld saying. Just sayin’ dude. End up getting sued if the lad caught his finger in the security gates.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Yeh, you'd have the door of the Casa open wide for these shysters? Imagine your student child doing the nefarious plodding around and not even getting the lousy 50 yo yo's for it Brendi.https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1403247352446656514
Fann Linn wrote: » Wrong again JJ. FF at it since 2007 according to MM. Do keep up.
ineedeuro wrote: » I think it is hilarious that people have no problem getting lied to by political parties. If you supported SF and it was only FG at it, then it would be uproar. Same if you support FG and SF was only doing it. Now it was all the parties and everyone is "Ahh grand sure I don't care about been lied to". Just so the supporters of the party have to maybe something bad about the party. The political parties are laughing at the Irish public now. They are all constantly getting caught at all sort of c**ps and it get brushed under the carpet. Do you now think Sinn Fein along with the rest should start treating people with some respect?
blanch152 wrote: » Still clinging to the notion that it was all right for Sinn Fein to do it because all the others were at it....................and there was me thinking that you had taken the high moral road to leave all of that behind when you rejected the "power swap" parties. Of all the big parties, FF are the least implicated in all of this, maybe you could find a home there.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Yes. And its wrong. All parties were at it. All wrong.
Fann Linn wrote: » Okay, I'll agree with you. But in light of Moriarty, Ansbacher, Bridget McCole, Bank Guarantee and IMF controversies and debacles, why is this getting some people exercised in light of the above?
Brendan Bendar wrote: » Got a point there in fairness….. certainly wouldn’t like my student child sucked into life on the high mountain slopes amongst the whins and heather and end up in a cell starving to death wearing a blanket while the fat cats don the mohair suits and conduct their money spinning ‘operations’ safe in the knowledge that no-one will ‘finger’ them, if they value their fingers,like. Get me dhrifft………….;)
guy2231 wrote: » Absolutely hilarious some of the people in this country how gullible they are, this was a complete non event the indo was using this as a way to get at Sinn Fein knowing people would go along with it and try make it into a big deal to hurt Sinn Fein. Then it came out it was common practice so now the people who were going at Sinn Fein have no choice now but to also slander all the other parties which is why it seems like a big deal when it is not. The middle ground will see for what it is another get Sinn Fein propaganda piece, the indo have very much scored an own goal here, they should have instead stuck with their endless articles about the disappeared. The gullible believe this is a big story because of how everyone came together at the start to get Sinn Fein and made a big deal over it.
guy2231 wrote: » Give it a rest, loyalist gangs launching attacks against catholic civilians was not mindless sectarian violence the violence was carefully orchestrated sectarian attacks by MI5 as part of psychological warfare against the IRA and propaganda towards the general public to make the conflict seem sectarian while also causing some individual members of the IRA to retaliate thus draining IRA support.
ineedeuro wrote: » So in other words the "change" banner Sinn Fein ran under is not really "change", it's just more of the same and we shouldn't expect any better?
guy2231 wrote: » You guys really do amaze me, all the parties were sending out spotty teenagers to get polling results rather than paying a company to do it for them the only reason this is a big deal is because it was first being used as a get SF story and the people who were wise enough going at SF in the media for this knew quite well that it was not a big deal but they also knew gullible members of the public like yourself would fall for the trap which is why they did it.
CaoimhinCong wrote: » I am usually one to avoid controversy. But patsy Gillespie worked openly for the Brits. So good riddance to bad rubbish. He was part and parcel of the occupation. Where the kids ? Julie Livingstone?
Allinall wrote: » Jaysus. A vivid imagination is wonderful.
ineedeuro wrote: » So you have no problem with the lying because Sinn Fein done it? "Blind allegiance to any politician is the beginning of the downfall of our democracy" That was said about Trump but it is certainly relevant to people on this forum.
blanch152 wrote: » This is quite simply one of the most disgusting posts I have ever seen on this forum. Delighting in the callous murder of an ordinary man just doing his job is possibly as low as one can go.
guy2231 wrote: » Imagination? Just because you can't be bothered or simply do not want to look at the overwhelming evidence? Well here it is from your Brit masters themselves......
Allinall wrote: » Stopped reading after this. More use of imagination.
CaoimhinCong wrote: » Ordinary man? He worked against his community. I don't delight in murder. I'm calling it for what it was. Patsy Gillespie was a collaborator. He was treated accordingly IMO.
StupidLikeAFox wrote: » He was a chef.
guy2231 wrote: » Just wondering have you been in a bubble the last ten years? Shocking that an Irish person in this day and age would call collusion merely just our imagination. Hundreds and hundreds of loyalist victims all imagining this are they?
FrancieBrady wrote: » :D That would happen instead of paying them a lousy 50 yo yo's? Who would they be polling on high mountain slopes - hillwalkers?
CaoimhinCong wrote: » He worked in fort George.